Hi all,
I would like interview the architects of the WT.
I suspect they designed the WT with its future demolition
in mind, which is one of the reasons why the buildings collapsed
so rapid and relatively neatly. Such buildings are no longer designed to
last.
Since the 1960's skyscappers have become just another form of capital.
Harry
----- Original Message -----
From: Edmund Storms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, November 21, 2005 1:11 pm
Subject: Re: BYU. professor thinks bombs, not planes, toppled WTC
> Jones, my question is, at what point do suggested events become so
> implausible to be deemed impossible? At what point does an active
> imagination lose contact with reality and how can this point be
> identified? In other words, how can we define sanity and identify
> insanity? Without such an understanding, we can never interpret
> another
> person's claims or even the action of our government. Should we
> believe
> the people who claim the government has placed thought controlling
> devices in their homes? Should we believed claims that chemicals
> are
> being rained down upon us from secret airplanes in order to
> achieve an
> unknown objective? Should we believe that the weather is being
> controlled to increase the profits of the oil companies? Where
> does it end?
>
> Regards,
> Ed
>
> Jones Beene wrote:
>
> > Ed,
> >
> >> 1. How would placement of explosives be kept secret?
> >
> >
> >> 2. How could the CIA be sure that collapse of the building
> would
> >> destroy everything and why would they care? After all, the
> site can
> >> be completely guarded, being in NY city, unlike a building in
> an
> >> unfriendly country.
> >
> >
> > Let me preface this specific hypothetical answer to the first of
> these
> > logical questions with this:
> >
> > Please remember that I stated that the web-site had presented a
> > "plausible" case, and NOT that it was believable by me. In fact,
> I would
> > give it a low, but non-zero, probability of being correct.
> However...>
> > ...as to "how" the placement of explosives would have been kept
> secret,
> > that is very easy to imagine ...
> >
> > Two ways, really - but the easiest was in the unusual
> construction
> > technique...first, the Wiki entry, and others (as annotated by me):
> >
> > "7 World Trade Center"
> >
> > There are two buildings that have been named 7 World Trade
> Center. One
> > of which was destroyed September 11, 2001 and one that now
> occupies the
> > same site. Although the two buildings share a name and a
> location, they
> > share no resemblance in architectural style - and an unusual
> amount of
> > secrecy according to those in the architectural profession.
> >
> > And it is somewhat remarkable that the site was rebuilt so soon,
> and
> > under suspicious circumstances. Some of the suspicion is
> external, and
> > relates to the amount of of gold and precious metals which were
> supposed
> > to have been stored in Secret Services vaults there. Some
> relates to the
> > lack of public details which were available and the fact that
> the site
> > was heavilt guarded during the construction phase.
> >
> > Seven World Trade Center first began construction in 1984,
> shortly after
> > the Iran incident, and in March of 1987 the building opened to
> become
> > "nominally" the seventh structure comprising the World Trade
> Center.
> > Since the CIA had been involved since day-one, thermite could
> have been
> > poured into the hollow columns of the design. Hollow coloumns
> were said
> > to have been a peculiarity of this design - but the detailed
> blueprints
> > of the "final" design, which was altered prior to construction,
> remain
> > secret to this day.
> >
> > The building was destroyed on September 11, 2001 in a series of
> > coordinated attacks but was largely untoched by falling debris.
> It is
> > the first steel building in the history of architecture to
> "supposedly"
> > fall from fire alone. Closer building to WTC 1,2 did not fall.
> The
> > structure had 47 floors and was 570 feet (174 m) in height.
> However only
> > 46 floors showed up as usable, and in keeping with the fact that
> many
> > building do no have a "13th floor" this is one place to hide a
> whole
> > floor - whose only purpose is in the event of emergency.
> >
> > The Center's management leased space to large financial
> institutions,
> > insurance companies, and government agencies. Apparently floor
> "13" was
> > sandwiched by management floors with no elevator stop there.
> >
> > No small companies were permitted as tenants in this building,
> according
> > to some who have tried to look into the details - also very
> unusual
> > since apparently many accountants and lawyers were salivating to
> get in
> > there. Also most unusual was the fact that a specific
> "terrorist"
> > insurance rider was taken out after the 1993 terrorist attack.
> Also a
> > major refurb was done in hte following year, and this could have
> been
> > when the building was rigged using the abandoned 13th floor and
> using
> > CIA operative contractors.
> >
> > The building housed Salomon Smith Barney, American Express Bank
> > International, Standard Chartered Bank, Provident Financial
> Management,
> > ITT Hartford Insurance Group, First State Management Group,
> Inc.,
> > Federal Home Loan Bank, and NAIC Securities in addition to the
> > governement tennants.
> >
> > The government agencies housed at 7 World Trade Center were the
> United
> > States Secret Service, the Department of Defense, the
> Immigration and
> > Naturalization Service, the U.S. Securities and Exchange
> Commission
> > ("SEC"), the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management, the
> Internal
> > Revenue Service Regional Council ("IRS"), and the Central
> Intelligence
> > Agency ("CIA") under a number of guises.
> >
> > The Collapse At 5:20 pm EST on September 11, 2001 Seven World
> Trade
> > Center collapsed. This event, in combination with the collapse
> of Towers
> > 1 and 2 of the World Trade Center, constituted the worst
> building
> > disaster in recorded American History. However, Building 7 was
> not
> > "that" close and prior to it going down, muffled explosions were
> heard
> > by the recnetly evacuated firemen - many of whom say that they
> could
> > have saved the building had not they been ordered out.
> >
> > The Commerce Department's National Institute of Standards and
> > Technology conducted a three year $24 million investigation
> into the
> > structural failure and collapse, including Seven World Trade
> Center. It
> > is generally seen as a "whitewash". Controversy has since grown
> and
> > speculations as to the exact cause of the building's collapse
> abound in
> > literature and Internet sites worldwide. Conspiracy theorists
> have
> > suggested a range of alternative possibilities.
> >
> > Reconstruction of 7 World Trade Center began in 2002 and is
> scheduled
> > for occupancy in the last quarter of this year. The 1,700,000
> square
> > foot building will be 52 floors with a more narrow footprint at
> ground
> > level than its predecessor. This building is not included in the
> World
> > Trade Center master plan by Daniel Libeskind and thus does not
> share the
> > new architectural design of the rest of the site.
> >
> > It has been reported that the first tenant to lease space in the
> > building besides Silverstein himself is American Express
> Financial
> > Services. It is said that they have leased 20,000 square feet
> (1,858
> > m²). No word on the CIA.
> >
> > Trivia: WTC 7 was the setting of the 1988 movie "Working Girl."
> in which
> > the 1933 Double Eagle was seen - it was temporarily stored in
> the US
> > Secret Service Vaults at 7 along with billions in gold and
> bearer bonds.
> > It was removed months before the tragic event to Fort Knox
> before its
> > record-breaking sale in New York for $7.59 Million in 2002.
> Hmmm... just
> > a lucky break, one must surmise.
> >
> > These vaults were said to have house at least $2 billion worth
> of
> > untraceable wealth, perhaps much more - presumed to have been
> insured
> > and lost in 9/11, but these funds could easily have been
> transfered
> > elsewhere to finance clandestine activitites - at the expense of
> the
> > French and Germans - who largely insured the building. Again...
> low
> > probability, but not non-zero.
> >
> > Jones
> >
>
>
