Besides electrons, the production of kaons whose substantial energy content
would be available to produce gamma radiation in the MeV range is a
candidate for the radiation profile observed..

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> For many years, I have been saying that excess heat is a poor test for
> LENR - a poor and insensitive indicator of LENR.  What has been seen in
> this experiment (GS5.2), is a clear indication of LENR via a radiation
> signature.  This was a high signal-to-noise spectrum and getting such a
> spectrum from a LENR process is exceedingly rare and of unique value to
> LENR science.
>
> The spectrum has every indication of being Bremsstrahlung ("braking")
> radiation that occurs when a light particle is stopped very quicky by a
> heavy atom.  The lighter the light particle and the heavier the heavy atom,
> the greater the Bremsstrahlung amplitude.  The lightest particle would be
> the electron, and the heavy atoms could be Ni, Fe, Cr, Mo from the fuel and
> the SS capsule containing the fuel.  BUT, the Bremsstrahlung spectrum has a
> sharp cutoff at the initial energy of the electron.  The fact that this
> spectrum shows energy out to beyond 1MeV means that you must have MeV+
> electron energies inside!  This is a big deal.  What LENR theories
> presently can account for MeV electrons?  Actually, there appears to be
> energy out to over 1.4 MeV in the Bremsstrahlung.  MeV protons will not
> create this spectrum (too heavy and low speed).
>
> MeV+ energies for single entities (as are indicated here) are really only
> available from a nuclear process.  There is no stretch of Mills or DDL
> theories (supra-chemical) that can account for >509keV photons/particles.
> There is presently no description in a hydroton theory for MeV+ electron
> emission.  It could fit in with Piantelli's theory with modification.  It
> could fit in with Hagelstein's and Karabut's photon energy multiplication
> (but it would be extreme).
>
> There are some skeptics that still believe that Ni-H LENR may not exist -
> even if they believe in Pd-D LENR.  This is unmistakable proof that Ni-H
> LENR is happening.
>
> Is this the holy grail experiment, ready to put in your hot water heater?
> No.  But, with further corroboration and analysis, this will provide a
> sensitive means to indicate the onset of LENR in a class of Ni-H
> experiments and will become an important probe into the science behind the
> curtain.  It will lead to replication and then to engineering.
>
> Bob Higgins
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Well - OK... there is a tiny signal - but let's look at the counts per
>> minute or per second.
>>
>> We are talking about 20 per second or so instead of a background of 4 or
>> so. This is really "banana level" (bananas are slightly radioactive).
>>
>> You would need to see trillions of times this level if there was 5 hours
>> of SSM - being produced by nuclear fusion.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: H LV
>>
>> from
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OAcb975m_AXMFz25zcl07kllERqVjSbZsWv_P1A3xQc/edit?pref=2&pli=1
>> Bob Higgins writes:
>> "There was a significant gamma outburst measured in GS5.2 whose broadband
>> high energy spectrum is not only unexplainable by known chemistry and
>> physics, but may also not be explainable by many of the present theories
>> for LENR!"
>>
>> He also says the the spectrum on figure 6 probably continues to rise on
>> the left side but it drops off due to the detector's sensitivity limit.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Roarty, Francis X <
>> francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote:
>> > Yes a little underwhelming but if they truly have a hands down recipe
>> > to repeatable anomalous heat it will probably get a number of industry
>> > labs and their funding off the fence wrt LENR. Now researchers can
>> > prove to their management this is real.
>> >
>> > Fran
>> >
>> > From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:44 AM
>> > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
>> > Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Big surprise or big dud ?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Where is the big surprise?
>> >
>> > I woke this morning with anticipation - expecting to see proof from
>> > MFMP of a 5 hour self-sustained reaction. Instead, we get graphs of
>> > modest gain at the noise level and radiation counts peaking in the few
>> > hundred per second – when we need to seeing a million times more - if
>> > the radiation does indeed relate to excess heat at kilowatt level.
>> > Yawn. Let’s hope there is much more forthcoming than this.
>> >
>> > What am I missing?
>>
>>
>

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