Since the apparatus was not enclosed in a calorimeter, Thermacore's
estimate for excess heat production depends on the assumption that the
"heat loss to the environment"  is the same for the calibration runs
and the active runs.

Harry

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 11:15 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Here is the relevant citation from the LENR-CANR library – it is one of the
> strongest demonstrations of Ni-H out there, in the sense of the credibility
> of the High Technology company doing the work, and acceptance by the funder
> (USAF - WRIGHT-PATTERSON) and the fact they ran a similar experiment for
> over a year of gain. Modest gain but solid proof.
>
> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GernertNnascenthyd.pdf
>
> I would be extremely happy if Rossi’s result was the same range of COP (1.5)
> as long as the proof was as verifiable as this.
>
> One has to wonder about the credibility of an anonymous poster who claims to
> get excess heat in a Celani experiment, publishes no data, and instead of
> using Constantin wire as does Celani – he uses nickel. Or is the data and
> other details posted somewhere?
>
> At best - that makes it a Thermacore experiment, which actually gives it
> more credibility than Celani. But it should not be confused with Celani
> where the wire treatment is said to be critical.
>
> There is no doubt that Thermacore had about the same gain using nickel and
> also could not make it go higher than about COP ~1.5.
>
> From: Jack Cole
>
> me356 seems fairly certain about getting excess heat repeatedly in Celani
> type experiments (up to 1.5x).  He does mention using 30ft of wire!  Maybe
> that matters.
>
> https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/2850-me356-Celani-Ni-Wire-replication/?pageNo=1
>
> Andrew Hrischanovich also reports achieving 1.5x in Celani type experiments
> and notes higher pressure seemed to help ~10 bar.  In personal
> communication, he indicates being unable to push it beyond that and is
> currently focused on TiH2.
>
> http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/02/05/tales-from-the-laboratory-of-experimental-physics-lenr-research-in-ukraine-and-russia-by-andrew-hrischanovich-alan-smith/
>
> Of course as we have seen time and again, there is often something
> discovered which invalidates the results.
>
> Jack
>
>

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