On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: H LV > >> Since the apparatus was not enclosed in a calorimeter, Thermacore's estimate >> for excess heat production depends on the assumption that the "heat loss to >> the environment" is the same for the calibration runs and the active runs. > > Yes, but that parameter can be accurately controlled and measured by skilled > experts. > > Thermacore is possibly the leading expert in the world at heat measurement. > They invented the heat pipe, for instance. Thermal engineering is their > specialty. >
Even if calorimetry established there was no excess heat, the thermal anomaly would survive. All claims of excess of heat (including P&F's) are based on observations of thermal anomalies plus the hypothesis that the storage of input energy is either irrelevant or impossible. There has never been an energy audit that proves the effect yields more energy produced than all the energy used through out the *entire* history of an experiment. quoting Mckubre <<In 2009, Michael McKubre concluded from his attempt to duplicate the "Fleischmann-Pons Effect", that there is "heat production consistent with nuclear but not chemical energy or known lattice storage effect".>> from the wikipedia page on Martin Fleishman. In other words, the possibility of "unknown" storage effect has never been ruled out. Harry
