Jed,
I am amazed. You just say things. no support as far as I can see.
You said in black I think in red.
While I have not disqualified these measurements, I have some doubts about
them because:

1. Based on his previous work, Penon is not qualified to do calorimetry. I
have no clue about how well you know this guys qualifications except you
read a report you think was flawed. If the COP was 50, then I (and I am not
good at calorimetry) could give the answer that at least COP6 was reached.

2. Penon is not independent of Rossi. How do you know that? How could IH
use a guy they suspect is in Rossi's pocket. You underestimate the players.

3. He is not licensed in Florida to do this kind of measurement. Sorry but
license is just an issue of passing a simple exam and pay the fees. I know
there is probably some experience required but that can always be fixed -
believe me.BTW if he is licensed anywhere would that make a difference.

4. I. H. said they disagree with the result. They know more about
calorimetry than Penon does, so I am inclined to believe them. Now you are
way out of line. IH does not know anything. My guess is that Darden and I
are equal when it comes to calorimetry. Other people in IH are not in the
picture and then calorimetry is not the only way to get things secured.

I will have to wait to see the report. I agree you are way too early. My
guess is that it will never be published, so we will never know who is
right. I would have agreed with you a couple of days ago. Now we might see
a lawsuit and then this report will be fully disclosed. It will take a
couple of years but . . .

 I do not know if you doubt that we are approaching a new technology that
can have positive impact on many areas of life or ???

Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros


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On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:

> Lennart Thornros <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> The info about COP I took from Rossi's pressrelease:
>>  According to the independent third party report, over the 352 day test
>> period, the E-Cat consistently generated energy at a rate in excess of six
>> (6) times the amount of energy consumed by the plant, often generating
>> energy exceeding fifty (50) times the amount of energy consumed during the
>> same period.
>>
>
>
>
>> It is just mind boggling to me that you disqualify the measurements and
>> the methods before you have any details.
>>
>
> I have not disqualified these measurements. I have not seen them. I was
> talking about Penon's previous report. It was lousy.
>
> While I have not disqualified these measurements, I have some doubts about
> them because:
>
> 1. Based on his previous work, Penon is not qualified to do calorimetry.
>
> 2. Penon is not independent of Rossi.
>
> 3. He is not licensed in Florida to do this kind of measurement.
>
> 4. I. H. said they disagree with the result. They know more about
> calorimetry than Penon does, so I am inclined to believe them.
>
> I will have to wait to see the report. My guess is that it will never be
> published, so we will never know who is right.
>
>
>
>> See the positive and I think Rossi is correct saying; "the world is one
>> step closer to the realization of a commercially available new, clean and
>> efficient energy source."
>>
>
> I doubt it.
>
> - Jed
>
>

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