On 08/08/2016 06:25 PM, Che wrote:


On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence <sa...@pobox.com <mailto:sa...@pobox.com>> wrote:



    The group got Rossi'd a couple years back and we're still
    gradually digging out from under.

    Ditto the entire LENR world, I'm afraid.


I think the issue still remains: *did* Rossi turn Nickel into copper -- and produce excess energy -- *at all*. Or not.

The 'con' part is the _least_ part, AFAIC. Maybe his ambition made him stoopid. What is the REAL physics going on here, regardless..??

There almost certainly isn't any interesting physics here. He's been proved to lie about his experiments and falsify his data. Consequently the only reason to believe there is anything interesting going on inside the ecat is blind faith, which has no place here.

IOW, the only reason for thinking there might be something magical going on here is "Rossi said so" and that's worthless.

If you want to spend time digging into all his reported results, and try to figure out exactly how each one was faked, and who must have colluded with him and who was just a patsy and what bits of misleading data he had to provide to fool various people, you can certainly do so, but the world is so chock-full of frauds that it hardly seems worth the effort.

I'm not sympathetic to people who commit fraud. I've had far too much experience with the "alternative medicine" field, which is very similar to the "free energy" field, and it has used up my patience for such slime.

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