Dr. Stiffler,

I created a Yahoo group in your name:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cold_Electricity

It already has a few members who see to sincerely want to learn more
about your work.  If you wish to join the group, I will give you full
moderator priviledges and you may decide who is allowed to join.

I admit that I am sceptical about your work; however, my mind is so
open that my brain oft falls out.

Terry


On 10/25/07, EnergyLab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It gets more interesting by the day, does it not?
>
> So lets see, If I place a picture of the readings on my TriField meter and
> my Ham RF field strength meter what a large can of worms that will open up.
>
> May I guess?
>
> You have it positioned in a dead spot of the lab, doe a test over every
> square foot.
> You do not have the gain of the meter turned high enough.
> Maybe your meter does not respond to the frequency doing it.
>
> In truth the reason I am no longer participation on the thread is it is in
> my view pointless.
>
> I listed the conditions of the lab location to be open an honest. But it
> appears that was a huge mistake. Have we digressed to dishonest and partial
> disclosure 'Is In' and 'Honesty' is out.
>
> I wish to thank Jones for at least being objective, but are some of you
> running in loops?
>
> I do not belong here (on this group) and maybe there is no other either, but
> I think in the interest of experiment it is worthwhile going down that road.
>
> Thank you all....
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:36 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity
>
>
> On 25/10/2007 7:08 AM, Horace Heffner wrote:
>
> >
> > On Oct 24, 2007, at 10:54 PM, John Winterflood wrote:
> >
> >> The important thing about a Faraday cage is that inside it you
> >> cannot tell anything about electric fields or electric potentials
> >> that exist outside.  You can't tell (in theory at least) whether
> >> the cage you are in is grounded, or sitting at 100kV, or on the top
> >> of a Tesla coil and being oscillated plus and minus to many megavolts.
> >>
> >> In this Ron's case however there is an "ground" wire entering the
> >> cage and who knows what potential difference exists between the
> >> cage and the wire entering it until he measures it.  This is the
> >> important thing - it doesn't matter whether either or neither are
> >> grounded - it just matters what is the AC and DC difference in
> >> potential between the wire entering and a well constructed cage.
> >
> > Good point.  Another option along the same lines might be to simply
> > strip a section of the ground wire and connect the ground wire to the
> > faraday cage at the entry point using an alligator clip.  It the
> > lights go out then the power is from an external source.
>
>
> If the lights go out when the faraday cage is internally grounded it may
> just mean the apparatus requires an external ground but it would not prove
> the power source is RF.
>
> To know for sure, you would have to see how the apparatus behaves far
> from significant RF sources when the faraday cage is externally grounded...
> or have the owners of the RF towers turn them off. ;-)
>
>
> Harry
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