OrionWorks wrote:
Hi Thomas,
Some follow-up thoughts.
Terry Blanton wrote:
Particularly is the Thai Buddhist concept of Nirvana.
and proclaim it's all "New Age Schick". - aka: "schtic" (Thank you,
Terry!)
No, it grows out out a particular world view.
You appear to state that Dennis Prager believes the accomplishments of
We think that many of the products of the secular society are crap
I've noticed that you seem to quote Dennis Prager a lot - over and
over and OVER, again and again. I'd sure like to know what your own
That's because I agree with a lot of what he says. BTW, the show is
webcast, and liberals go to the head of the line.
FWIW, I would suggest that using Stalin or Mao as an examples of how
Atheists truly behave is no more of an valid explanation than using
Stalin and Mao were both followers of Scientific Rationalism. AFAIK, it
is a system which has failed every time it has been tried.
the Ayatollah Khomeini as an example of how certain religious minded
The Radical Islamists have the Qur'an (interpreted literally) on their
side.
It would seem on the surface that the woman in question couldn't take
anymore of the on-going debate, but then, perhaps she may have
A man sitting behind me reported that about 10 atheists (they had ID
tags) headed out about the same time. Too much coffee perhaps?
Is she destined to be a lost lamb for the rest of her miserable life,
to eventually burn in hell simply because she walked out on Prager???
I think that her mind was already made up. My point was that Dennis'
comments cut her to the quick.
and I mean that on a primal level. Ironically, most hard-core
religious fundamentalists I've met (particularly those that come
from traditional religious institu
We understand it perfectly well Steven. What you need to understand is that
this system has failed every time it's been tried. This is because it doesn't
recognize man's fallen and sinful nature.
Let's add the story of Genesis as well! I love all of that "knowing" &
"begetting" that was going on! A real soap opera!
Genesis being a classic case in point.
Witness the crazed suicidal bomber who tries to take out as many
innocent souls as he possibly can.
You have to realize that there are two gods in this system,
one is the G-d of Israel, and the other is Lucifer. They
have produced two quite different religious systems these
two gods. One is the Holy Torah, the other New Age.
No, I don't have to reduce my realizations down to "...realize[ing]
there are two gods." Yes-No & Black-White decisions. Why in G_d's name
would anyone want to shoot themselves in the foot in such a
reductionistic manner. In the same vein, why do you "...have to
realize" that this HAS to be the absolute truth of the matter?
In the early 20th Century there was a venture capitalist named Herbert
Walker, he was the president of Brown Brothers. He had a Russian
Chauffeur named Leon Trotsky. He gave Trotsky $2 million in gold and
passage to Russia. You know the rest of the story.
Herbert had a daughter named Dorthy. She married Prescott Bush. Herbert
helped raise his grandson, George Herbert Walker Bush. In 1963 America
had a coup. Poppi Bush has one of the people implicated.
The above paragraphs are a short explanation of the history of the 20th
Century. The other side's moves in this chess game were the rebirth of
the Israeli state.
It has been suggested that the world would be better in Algore had won
the presidency. Well, Algore would have won if he had carried Tennessee.
He would have carried Tennessee, were it not for his uncompromising
stand on gun control.
Why are they doing this? There are some things which are more desirable
than money, and power is one of them. Then there is the population
problem, there are too many humans, and they intend to redress the matter.
But it's all about instituting a New World Order. You may recall Poppi's
speech about the matter.
What
happens to your absolute reasoning on this matter if deep down inside
somewhere inside of your soul, you begin to acquire even the slightest
doubt as to it's absoluteness?
It's clear to me that we are up against creatures who are smarter than
we are, and as evil as we can imagine. If I'm wrong, we're screwed.
What happens then? Are you a lost lamb
to be thrown to the wolves? Are you destined to burn in hell for
allowing your soul to entertain the audacity of doubting your own
personal interpretation of a one true g_d?
Are they really doing it for the preservation of
their way-of-life, for the glory of Allah, or for the
72 virgins that had been promised them. Oh,
Deceiving men is so damn easy. Yah, Yah, give em what they want.
Yes indeed. And what does your personal retirement package consist of?
Does it come with a money back gurantee? Have you read the fine print?
to heaven and that all their closest friends come with them as well so
that we can all be together, happy and safe forever and forever.
[Well, the latter part is a sweet gesture, I'd have to admit.]
Yah, I'm going to be with my friends in the Kehilat (our congregation),
and the streets will be paved with gold.
One final comment. It might not seem to be the case, but I really do
learn a lot of things from you, Thomas. I fear it isn't reciprocal,
however, and that saddens me.
Thank you Steven I appreciate that.
BTW, I just listened to Michael Shoyer, the author of Marching Towards
Hell interviewed. The book sounds like the unvarnished truth.
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