If good Muslims kill all non-muslims why have Jews been living in their cities for over a millennium?
Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008 9:33 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan > Good Christians, living their faith by the book, love their > enemies. Good > Muslims, living their faith by the book, kill their enemies which > includeall non Muslims. Don't take my word for it. Look it up. > > The people on this list are technically brilliant, but in some other > important areas, the ignorance is astounding. > > Jeff > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Iverson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 6:56 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan > > Gee Ed, I don't know any christians, buddists, scientologists or > any other > belief systems that want > to wipe out other belief systems; that would strap bombs on their > childrenand handicapped, let > alone 'sane' adults, all in the name of their religion/god. > > With all the acrimonious feelings you have about this country, > sounds like > you'd be much happier in > Iraq or Iran! I'll buy your ticket... > > -Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Edmund Storms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 2:38 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Cc: Edmund Storms > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan > > How do you tell the good Christians from the bad Christians, > Richard? > Surely you know that bad Christians exist. I suggest you use the same > method you would apply to > Christians. > > Ed > > > On Nov 2, 2008, at 3:29 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > > R C Macaulay wrote: > > > >> These people have their religious mandate to kill us. You try > >> separating the good muslims from the bad ones because I can't > see the > >> difference. > > > > Not a problem! Not long ago, by historical standards, most > Japanese > > people had it in for us, and were determined to kill Americans. > It was > > more or less a religious thing -- Emperor worship, in their case. > I > > knew a good many of them, although they are mostly dead by now. > They > > fell into two groups, easily recognizable: > > > > 1. People who were formerly committed to killing Americans, but > who no > > longer felt that way. This was the vast majority. > > > > 2. People who still have it in for us, and/or the Russians, > Chinese, > > Koreans, and anyone else they went to war with in the 1930s and 40s. > > They are mostly tattooed gangsters (yakuza) who drive around in > large > > trucks playing military music at high volume, to cause trouble > and > > bother the neighborhood. You can't miss 'em. In 1990, one of them > shot > > the mayor of Nagasaki, because he said the Emperor was not god > and was > > partly responsible for the war. > > > > I never have had any difficulty telling peaceful Japanese people > from > > war-mongerers, and I am sure I would have no difficulty > identifying > > Muslims who want to kill us. > > > > Such people exist in every country, and every society, including > our > > own. But the numbers are usually small. There are many in the > Muslim > > societies at present because these societies are undergoing a > crisis. > > There is a civil war going on in Saudi Arabia, and in > Afghanistan. It > > is a fight between modernity (science, rationality and > technology) and > > a fanatical version of religion. Those wars spilled over into the > U.S. > > in the 9/11 attack. Fundamentally, they have little to do with > us. We > > just happen to be in the line of fire, you might say. > > > > There were many brutal fanatics in Japan in the 1930s because > they > > were undergoing a similar crisis, and in the U.S. in the 1860s > for the > > same reason. Such crises never last long. Either the society > recovers > > and acts civilized again, or it goes too far and destroys itself. > > Pre-war Japanese society destroyed itself in 1941 at Pearl > Harbor, and > > the Confederacy died at Gettysburg in 1863. Sooner or later, > Saudi > > Arabia will either recover or destroy itself. It cannot go on in > a war > > with modernity for decades. When it recovers, the threat to us > will > > recede. That will happen a lot sooner if we stop using oil and > > bankrupt them. > > > > I think the notion that we are in a second cold war that will > last for > > decades is absurd, and without foundation. > > > > - Jed > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1761 - Release Date: > 11/1/20087:56 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1761 - Release Date: > 11/1/20087:56 PM > > > >
