The 'threat' might be taken more seriously if the number of 
people abducted each year exceeded the number of people killed 
in car accidents. 


Harry
----- Original Message -----
From: Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Monday, July 27, 2009 11:56 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: The Abduction Paradigm

> I too have studied and given  lot of thought to the UFO phenomenon. 
> 
> Steven has provided a good description of many of my conclusions, 
> so I  
> won't try to add anything except to ask one question. Why do people 
> 
> have such a difficult time accepting such a well documented   
> phenomenon?  To start the discussion, I will provide my answer.
> 
> Most people are incapable of accepting anything that is a threat to 
> 
> them.  Such threats produce anxiety and are rejected in various 
> ways  
> as much as is possible.   The idea of a superior life form that can 
> 
> abduct individuals at will is too much for most people to handle on 
> an  
> emotional level.  Since nothing can be done about this threat, it 
> is  
> best ignored.  Since this is a universal reaction of people with  
> respect to many aspects of life, the opinion of the crowd cannot be 
> 
> accepted as a description of reality.  This being the case, who can 
> be  
> trusted?  This is the basic question we all have to answer because 
> our  
> individual fates in all aspects of life depend on choosing well.  
> What  
> criteria do you use to trust the opinion of another person? How 
> much  
> evidence, if any, do you need to accept a belief? The UFO 
> phenomenon  
> provides an incentive to answer such questions.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 26, 2009, at 7:11 PM, OrionWorks wrote:
> 
> > Indeed, it's been an interesting slo Sunday.
> >
> > As is probably evident by some within the catacombs of the Vort
> > Collective, I have occasionally expressed a few opinions on this
> > so-called "abduction" matter. So, off the races I go once again 
> in the
> > hope that the following thought fodder might stimulate some to 
> ponder> this mystery in a manner where no-one has gone before.
> >
> > IMO, there isn't an educated person on this planet who doesn't
> > implicitly believe in the indisputable fact that UFOs exist. The 
> real> question is: What *are* UFOs, and a smarmy subject that is, 
> be it
> > "swamp gas", or encounters with nearby neighbors. Regarding the
> > abduction experience, sometimes referred to as the "experiencer"
> > phenomenon, I have begun to draw a few tentative conclusions over 
> the> past couple of decades:
> >
> > It is possible that a sub-category of "encounters" may very well 
> turn> out to be classic abduction experiences, something akin to 
> "catch and
> > release" programs that we ourselves perform as we study and gather
> > information on endangered life forms on our own planet.
> >
> > However, at present I've come to the tentative suspicion that a
> > significant sampling, if not most of "abductions", are the result of
> > our species attempt to interface with something far more interesting
> > and profound than your typical run-of-the-mill "catch and release"
> > program.
> >
> > Anyone who has studied the phenomenon quickly discovers the
> > interesting fact that the "abduction" experience tends to run in the
> > family. Abduction experiences are inter-generational – grandparents,
> > parents, children... A logical conclusion to draw from this
> > observation is the likelihood that there must exist a genetic
> > component, a predisposition to having the abduction experience. Just
> > how far back in the gene pool have these experiences been 
> manifesting> their effects on our species? It seems logical for me 
> to speculate:
> > Possibly since the inception of Homo Sapiens.
> >
> > From what I can tell there doesn't seem to be anything special about
> > those who claim they are abductees/experiencers. The propensity to
> > experience the abduction scenario seems to be randomly disbursed
> > throughout the entire human population. The result of such 
> randomness> would suggest that some experiencers will turn out to 
> be naturally
> > smarter, better educated than others. One's cultural background will
> > definitely influence how one interprets it. Depending on how much
> > support an experiencer receives when they first begin the often
> > difficult and all-too-often psychologically harrowing journey of
> > consciously acknowledging their experiences, the better equipped 
> they> are likely to be in handling and ultimately integrating it 
> into the
> > intimate fabric of their lives.
> >
> > Of course, everyone wants to know the $64,000 question: Is the
> > phenomenon really real? Are people *really*, physically being
> > abducted, or is it all just fantasy? All that most of us
> > non-abductees, us mundanes can conclude is the fact that it feels
> > real, terrifying real and acutely physical to those who 
> experience it.
> >
> > I personally think far too much emphasis has been put on attempts to
> > either legitimize or debunk the experience. Just as debunkers 
> attempt> to ridicule and marginalize the experience as nothing more 
> than weird
> > clinically diagnosable psychological aberrations possibly pertaining
> > the brain chemistry (or perhaps the result of bad upbringing), some
> > experiencers try just as valiantly to prove with equal ferocity that
> > their experiences are physically happening. I've personally come to
> > the tentative conclusion that attempts to either prove or 
> disprove its
> > legitimacy will fail. The continuing struggle also distracts us from
> > the real work at hand. Continued confrontations, I fear, miss the
> > mark, and badly I might add.
> >
> > All too often what is being overlooked is the fact that a certain
> > portion of our population continues to have the experience. I 
> suspect> a portion of our population always has. There is every 
> indication to
> > assume the likelihood that a distinct sampling of our population 
> will> continue to encounter and manifest within themselves these
> > experiences. Therefore, attempts to dismiss the experiences as not
> > being "real" will, in the longer run, prove unproductive precisely
> > because the phenomenon will continue to persist no matter what the
> > current paradigms of science and psychology have to say on the
> > subject, ESPECIALLY if these learned institutions attempt to 
> corral it
> > into safe theoretical boundaries, possibly in attempts to 
> marginalize> it.
> >
> > I suspect such tactics will ultimately fail, not because the
> > experiencer phenomenon will continue to persist, but because it may
> > also an intimate vital part of what makes us Homo sapiens. From 
> what I
> > can tell there appears to be a super-intelligent component to the
> > phenomenon that I'm beginning to suspect we deeply need as a species
> > in order to both survive and evolve. It may be time that we begin to
> > consciously acknowledge the legitimacy of its presence, in the same
> > way that the experience has always been acknowledged unconsciously
> > such as within our psyches of abductees. Make no mistake about this:
> > Conscious or unconsciously acknowledged its effects are real either
> > way.
> >
> > It quickly becomes apparent to many experiencers that, regardless of
> > whether they are "open" to the experience or not, they are
> > encountering something vastly intelligent and incomprehensible to
> > their own concept of a "self". By the very nature of the
> > incomprehensibility of the experience as they encounter it, it is
> > natural to interpret it as exceedingly threatening, particularly
> > within the framework of our current cultural/religious 
> interpretations> of a "self". In the presence of the abduction 
> experience the sense of
> > "self" tends to feel both profoundly insignificant and vulnerable to
> > complete and utter annihilation, particularly if "contact" with the
> > experience is allowed to proceed.
> >
> > It is conceivable to me that these experiences are linked to the 
> more> primal portions of our unknown psyche, vast untapped "alienated"
> > portions of ourselves that are nevertheless attempting to establish
> > (reestablish?) communication with the more acceptable/prosaic 
> portions> of our psyches. It's equally possible that such 
> encounters are
> > currently the only avenue available to us in terms of 
> "communication"> with sentient intelligences, some possibly on the 
> order of millions of
> > years more advanced than our own tentative baby steps. Perhaps an 
> even> more interesting conclusion that might be drawn is the 
> possibility> that we will ultimately discover that these seemingly 
> divergent> conclusions are simply different aspects of the same thing,
> > particularly when we begin delving into the fundamental nature of 
> what> the "self" is comprised of.
> >
> > A conclusion that some researchers are beginning to draw from their
> > research, a conclusion that I also find myself in sympathy with, is
> > the possibility that these experiences may turn out to be the 
> driving> force behind our most powerful myths, folklore, and 
> religions that
> > have manifested on our planet. Such a conclusion, if it turns out to
> > be accurate, (and I suspect it may very well be close to the mark)
> > should cause most who are educated to ponder the folly of all who
> > continue attempts to dismiss the phenomenon as nothing more than a
> > curious albeit fascinating "aberrations" of the human condition.
> >
> > I'd like to end this essay on both a positive note and a negative 
> 
> > warning.
> >
> > First the positive note: the abduction experience may turn out to be
> > an essential component of ourselves, an aspect of ourselves that I
> > hope humanity will eventually feel more comfortable simply accepting
> > as-is, without the need to prove or disprove it as either being 
> "real"> or "unreal". In the end the primal components that make up the
> > abduction experience, the abduction paradigm, may be no more or less
> > legitimate than the human condition we experience as art, dance,
> > music, literature, architecture, and other profound human
> > achievements. One thing I've noticed time and time again from many
> > experiencers I've had the privilege of conversing with, particularly
> > those who have been fortunate enough to have been able to surround
> > themselves with proper emotional support, is the fact that they tend
> > to come out at the other end transformed. Those who are better
> > educated and more emotionally adjusted, especially the lucky who
> > received emotional support, are often transformed into better human
> > beings. They become more aware and concerned about the well being of
> > humanity, the profound interconnectivity everyone shares with one
> > another, and of the health of the planet.
> >
> > And now, the warning: If we continue to deny the simple 
> legitimacy of
> > the experience, particularly in the manner that it is commonly
> > experienced; if we continue to view it with prejudice; if we 
> continue> to dismiss it as inconsequential, or worse, as nothing 
> more than an
> > annoying, medically treatable psychological aberration, we will only
> > succeed in driving the phenomenon underground within the collective
> > psyche of our species. This will subsequently result in a continued
> > upwelling of psychic insurgencies as the experience continues to
> > strafe the "better sensibilities" attributed to the current cultural
> > predilections of our society. As it is driven underground, the
> > phenomenon will simply continue to plot its own course in the
> > tireless, relentless manner that it has always done with 
> civilizations> past, patiently and methodically, until it manages 
> to pull off its own
> > "9/11". A possible consequence of such folly: A new religion.
> >
> > Regards
> > Steven Vincent Johnson
> > www.OrionWorks.com
> > www.zazzle.com/orionworks
> >
> 
>

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