On 01/14/2010 11:32 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Stephen A. Lawrence <sa...@pobox.com> To: >> vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 4:10:25 PM Subject: >> Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of >> steorn talk#2 demo-rig >> >> >> >> On 01/14/2010 03:02 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: >>> The Orbo is a motor as I am sure we will all agree. In order for >>> the motor to be OU, it must be outputting more mechanical energy >>> than electrical energy it consumes. >> >> Not exactly -- not the way the term has been used to describe the >> Steorn motor. >> >> Granted, Sean's "300% OU" would lead to this conclusion. However, >> his fundamental, most basic claim is that the motor has no back >> EMF, and consequently *all* input energy appears as heat in the >> coils. >> >> If that were true, then the motor would be OU if it did any >> mechanical work at all, no matter how small the amount. The OU >> thing here, however, is not mechanical_work/input_energy, but >> rather >> >> (mechanical_work + heat_in_coils)/input_energy > > > >> To determine if this is actually OU it would be necessary to stuff >> the whole thing into a calorimeter, which is, I think, the test the >> firm in Germany is supposed to perform. >> >> If it could be shown that the motor was, indeed, OU by this test, >> it might still be the case that (mechanical_work/input_energy)<1, >> which would make it impossible to either close the loop or even get >> any useful work out of it, *but* it would still be an incredible, >> amazing, remarkable, stunning achievement (or a measurement error, >> of course). > > > > The purpose of a _motor_ is to convert electromagnetic energy into > useful motion. The purpose of the orbo is to turn electromagnetic > energy and motion into heat. Therefore it is misleading to call it a > motor. > > If the orbo can produce more output heat energy than it uses in input > energy then it is similar to the purpose of a _reactor_.
Yes, precisely! That's exactly what they seem to be claiming.
