you could also call it an engine, could you not?
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Harry Veeder <hlvee...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> From: Stephen A. Lawrence <sa...@pobox.com>
>> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
>> Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 4:10:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:steorn talk#2 today at 5pm irish time + closeup shots of
>> steorn talk#2 demo-rig
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>> On 01/14/2010 03:02 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
>> > The Orbo is a motor as I am sure we will all agree. In order for the
>> > motor to be OU, it must be outputting more mechanical energy than
>> > electrical energy it consumes.
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>> Not exactly -- not the way the term has been used to describe the Steorn
>> motor.
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>> Granted, Sean's "300% OU" would lead to this conclusion. However, his
>> fundamental, most basic claim is that the motor has no back EMF, and
>> consequently *all* input energy appears as heat in the coils.
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>> If that were true, then the motor would be OU if it did any mechanical
>> work at all, no matter how small the amount. The OU thing here,
>> however, is not mechanical_work/input_energy, but rather
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>> (mechanical_work + heat_in_coils)/input_energy
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>> To determine if this is actually OU it would be necessary to stuff the
>> whole thing into a calorimeter, which is, I think, the test the firm in
>> Germany is supposed to perform.
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>> If it could be shown that the motor was, indeed, OU by this test, it
>> might still be the case that (mechanical_work/input_energy)<1, which
>> would make it impossible to either close the loop or even get any useful
>> work out of it, *but* it would still be an incredible, amazing,
>> remarkable, stunning achievement (or a measurement error, of course).
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> The purpose of a _motor_ is to convert electromagnetic energy into useful
> motion. The purpose of the orbo is to turn electromagnetic energy and motion
> into heat. Therefore it is misleading to call it a motor.
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> If the orbo can produce more output heat energy than it uses in input energy
> then it is similar to the purpose of a _reactor_.
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> Harry
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