On 01/14/2010 03:02 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > The Orbo is a motor as I am sure we will all agree. In order for the > motor to be OU, it must be outputting more mechanical energy than > electrical energy it consumes.
Not exactly -- not the way the term has been used to describe the Steorn motor. Granted, Sean's "300% OU" would lead to this conclusion. However, his fundamental, most basic claim is that the motor has no back EMF, and consequently *all* input energy appears as heat in the coils. If that were true, then the motor would be OU if it did any mechanical work at all, no matter how small the amount. The OU thing here, however, is not mechanical_work/input_energy, but rather (mechanical_work + heat_in_coils)/input_energy To determine if this is actually OU it would be necessary to stuff the whole thing into a calorimeter, which is, I think, the test the firm in Germany is supposed to perform. If it could be shown that the motor was, indeed, OU by this test, it might still be the case that (mechanical_work/input_energy)<1, which would make it impossible to either close the loop or even get any useful work out of it, *but* it would still be an incredible, amazing, remarkable, stunning achievement (or a measurement error, of course). > > Somehow Steorn must measure the torque or have the motor perform work, > eg lift a weight, pump water, etc. But they seem to have a basic lack > of understanding of this fact. > > T >