Why would a micron thin layer evaporate if it's plated on a heat
conducting metal ?? 100W/cm2 is not that much really, it's roughly
what the tip of my soldering iron dissipates happily, even though it's
in air rather than in water.

An example of a thin Pd layer that works? I coudn't even give you an
example of a thick one that works with certainty!

Michel

2010/3/26 Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com>:
> Thank you for calling CF a surface effect, perhaps we have to add that it is
> a local effect,
> only separate point like active sites generate the heat.
> Unfortunately micron thin layers evaoprate immediately- can you imagine how
> much is 100W.sq.cm? And can you tell me a single real example of heat excess
> obtained with such layers in the Pd/D2O system? I have not lied when I was
> alive, should strat do it now? Should I give non-usable examples, advices
>  to my grandson???
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Michel Jullian <michelj...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Peter-in-the-grave :) Since CF is a surface effect, how about
>> plating just a few microns of Pd onto some cheaper metal?
>>
>> 2010/3/26 Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com>:
>> > Nice to hear from you, Terry. The trouble is that 0.1 mm is too thin, Pd
>> > overheats, melts- losses, problems etc. Can you calculate the surface
>> > temperature of the metal at a heat release of 100 Watts per square
>> > centimenter?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> A bit of realistic sci-fi..
>> >> January 6, 2028- my grandson who was educated in the spirit
>> >> of new energy, cold fusion is wonderful - has succeeded to
>> >> work out the perfectly reproducible energy generating method.
>> >> In the frame of a Pd - D2O system.
>> >> He is a respected citizen and as it is almost compulsory in
>> >> the New Moneytheistic society- a billionaire. He calls the
>> >> Chief Economist of his company:
>> >> "Mark, please buy the reserves of palladium any gram you
>> >> can we are going to conquer the world of energy, to replace
>> >> any dirty fossil fuel.. you see itis winter and it is so warm...
>> >> In two weeks the economist succeeds to buy 150 tonnes
>> >> of palladium. a real wizard.
>> >> My grandson's system releases 100 W per 1 sq.cm
>> >> of palladium, which is in the form of a thin layer of
>> >> 0.2 millimetres i.e 1 x 0.02 x 12 = 0.24 grams.
>> >> It is now simple to calculate that if
>> >> 0.24 g. give a power of 100 W, 200,000,000 g.
>> >> will give- 8.4 10 exp 10 W or  8.4 10 exp 7 kW. in a
>> >> more pragmatical language 84 millions of kWatts
>> >> Or 84,000 MWatts. (US consumes now appr.
>> >> 270,000 MWatts electricity)
>> >> Next step- how many kWatts is Mankind consuming.
>> >> Oh not so much, we are clever and are back at the value
>> >> of 2008. But this value is a bit greater-than what can CF give
>> >> He concludes:
>> >> the CF system can contribute but cannot conquer the market
>> >> of energy.
>> >> He visits my grave and has a long imaginary discussion
>> >> with me. I ask him to do better mathematics and
>> >> use the best data. Can you help him? Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>>
>
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