Imagine a 2kWh heater with a surface of 20 sq.cm. Quite intense... On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Michel Jullian <michelj...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Why would a micron thin layer evaporate if it's plated on a heat > conducting metal ?? 100W/cm2 is not that much really, it's roughly > what the tip of my soldering iron dissipates happily, even though it's > in air rather than in water. > > An example of a thin Pd layer that works? I coudn't even give you an > example of a thick one that works with certainty! > > Michel > > 2010/3/26 Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com>: > > Thank you for calling CF a surface effect, perhaps we have to add that it > is > > a local effect, > > only separate point like active sites generate the heat. > > Unfortunately micron thin layers evaoprate immediately- can you imagine > how > > much is 100W.sq.cm? And can you tell me a single real example of heat > excess > > obtained with such layers in the Pd/D2O system? I have not lied when I > was > > alive, should strat do it now? Should I give non-usable examples, advices > > to my grandson??? > > > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Michel Jullian <michelj...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, Peter-in-the-grave :) Since CF is a surface effect, how about > >> plating just a few microns of Pd onto some cheaper metal? > >> > >> 2010/3/26 Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com>: > >> > Nice to hear from you, Terry. The trouble is that 0.1 mm is too thin, > Pd > >> > overheats, melts- losses, problems etc. Can you calculate the surface > >> > temperature of the metal at a heat release of 100 Watts per square > >> > centimenter? > >> > > >> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> A bit of realistic sci-fi.. > >> >> January 6, 2028- my grandson who was educated in the spirit > >> >> of new energy, cold fusion is wonderful - has succeeded to > >> >> work out the perfectly reproducible energy generating method. > >> >> In the frame of a Pd - D2O system. > >> >> He is a respected citizen and as it is almost compulsory in > >> >> the New Moneytheistic society- a billionaire. He calls the > >> >> Chief Economist of his company: > >> >> "Mark, please buy the reserves of palladium any gram you > >> >> can we are going to conquer the world of energy, to replace > >> >> any dirty fossil fuel.. you see itis winter and it is so warm... > >> >> In two weeks the economist succeeds to buy 150 tonnes > >> >> of palladium. a real wizard. > >> >> My grandson's system releases 100 W per 1 sq.cm > >> >> of palladium, which is in the form of a thin layer of > >> >> 0.2 millimetres i.e 1 x 0.02 x 12 = 0.24 grams. > >> >> It is now simple to calculate that if > >> >> 0.24 g. give a power of 100 W, 200,000,000 g. > >> >> will give- 8.4 10 exp 10 W or 8.4 10 exp 7 kW. in a > >> >> more pragmatical language 84 millions of kWatts > >> >> Or 84,000 MWatts. (US consumes now appr. > >> >> 270,000 MWatts electricity) > >> >> Next step- how many kWatts is Mankind consuming. > >> >> Oh not so much, we are clever and are back at the value > >> >> of 2008. But this value is a bit greater-than what can CF give > >> >> He concludes: > >> >> the CF system can contribute but cannot conquer the market > >> >> of energy. > >> >> He visits my grave and has a long imaginary discussion > >> >> with me. I ask him to do better mathematics and > >> >> use the best data. Can you help him? Thanks! > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >
