From: Peter Gluck
* And can you tell me a single real example of heat excess obtained with such layers in the Pd/D2O system? No . but . the Arata-Zhang system uses nanometer sized spheres of Ni-Pd alloy, embedded in zirconia. It is stable over extended periods in a heated deuterium gas. The small alloy spheres are way, way below micron geometry - but probably would not work in a liquid, true. But there is no need for a liquid if we can dispense with electrolysis. IMHO this is probably a significant way in which LENR is maturing mature - gas phase. Why not? There is little advantage to electrolysis as it actually hinders loading. The ~4:1 loading ratio of Arata (D:Pd) has been confirmed numerous times by independent experimenters. Efforts are underway from a few of those experimenters (at least one, anyway) to increase the low delta-T of A-Z by means of other energy input. That is obviously the way to proceed, as commercialization will demand a useable spread, even if advanced TEGs become available. The easiest way to move beyond A-Z would be high voltage, but coherent light would certainly be interesting. Jones