Dear Peter,
There must be a language problem - no offense was intended. The point is that the genesis of Rossi's work did not have any remote connection to Focardi, nor even to LENR. LENR was NOT Rossi's field of interest, until recently. This began with a DARPA grant for an improved thermoelectric generator. Rossi, along with LTI, and researchers at the University of New Hampshire built a model that seemed to be a 400% improvement over anything else ever made. It used nano-nickel as the main component. The material turned out to be extremely energetic, and two lab fires resulted. The program was abandoned. But not the material! There was zero connection to the Italian LENR program until this point in time, about 4 years ago - and all of the advances came later with one further huge coincidence - it was all at about the same time as the Arata/Zhang experiments were making a major impact in the science News. Rossi is no fool. He can add 2+2 and get four. He immediately saw the connection, and then soon after found out about the Italian efforts, going back to the early 1990s. This is when it all came together with Focardi. The 800 pound gorilla in the closet is LTI. Essentially they will claim to own all rights to the invention, and since it was done through DARPA, who knows where it will end up? Jones From: Peter Gluck Dear Jones, I like your scenario -if I understand correctly- Rossi is a real inventor who succeeded to transform a non-, or badly working device in this fine, functional generator? OK, do you have real information about that? However I would ask you to explain or to retract what you have said re "general argument with extraneous disinformation about Focardi and the Italians" This sound very offending and I do not see any justification for it. Better let's discuss about patents, if... Peter On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: From: Peter Gluck > have you read all the patents and papers, and have you an idea what means to replicate the results of 15 years of hard work, with so many critical parameters? I have certainly read everything in the public record, and much that is not public. And with all due respect, let me suggest that your comments lead to a conclusion that you are misinformed on the precise history of this present effort, Peter. This is NOT about Focardi in any relevant way. Of course, he would like to take as much credit as others will give him, why not? The effort that led to the presentation is barely three years old. I have nothing against anyone being a cheerleader for the LENR field - and you are quite good at that - keep up the good work, but please do not cloud the general argument with extraneous disinformation about Focardi and the Italians. The motivation for including them now is not what you think. Certainly Focardi and the others have been at similar work for a long time, over 15 years in fact, and with limited success and terrible reproducibility. That failure to reproduce is what has drawn them to Rossi, who is a complete newcomer, but did stumble on two key things and they are probably the same two of Arata - nickel nanopowder and a spillover catalyst. Arata used palladium since deuterium only works with palladium. Rossi has found something that works equally well with hydrogen. It is that simple. Rossi has only recently got involved - and understanding how he got involved - with LTI and DARPA and as an outgrowth of the TEG project is absolutely critical to understanding the present situation. Surely, you have noticed that this is not an equal effort, and that Focardi is not, and never was, a full partner in Rossi's project. His contribution is merely lending the credibility of his name to the real inventor. Jones