On 04/06/2011 10:23 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net <mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:
>
>     The mundane reason for the appearance of iron an copper is
>     electromigration.
>
>
> Where are the electric fields that would cause electromigration? There
> are no fields in copper pipes as far as I know.
>
> Kullander does say ". . . it's remarkable that nickel-58 and hydrogen
> can form copper-63 (70%) and copper-65 (30%)."
>
> I guess that means they measured the isotopes.

He *said* they measured the isotopes.

He said, specifically, the ratios for both nickel and copper didn't vary
from natural abundances:  "The isotopic analysis through ICP-MS *doesn't
show any deviation from the natural isotopic composition* of nickel and
copper."


> They used XRFS and ICP-MS. XRFS measures only elements as I recall,
> whereas ICP-MS detects isotopes.
>
> It would be a little odd if the reaction produced copper with a
> natural isotopic distribution.

That's a marvelous understatement!  And don't forget that the nickel
wasn't differentially depleted, either -- its ratios were natural, as well.

It's more likely that Levi is in on the gag than that transmutation from
nickel to copper produced "natural" isotope ratios in the ash.  The
former merely requires the assumption that a few humans are acting
unusually stupid (which happens frequently).  The latter requires
something close to a miracle (and miracles are very rare).


>
> - Jed
>

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