On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:

> Some skeptics have, and perhaps they mean it. Others have told me (in other
> forums) they are certain there is trickery and no amount of heat would
> convince them of anything.
>

Like Cude said.

> A few skeptics have claimed there might be trickery of a special nature that
> cannot be tested for, confirmed or falsified.
>

Let's be more specific.  There could be a thermal mass heat storage
effect and there could be a chemical or change of stage/molten metal
type of heat storage or there could be Raney nickel type of reaction.
And there may be mechanisms to cheat we are not aware of.  You can't
expect a skeptical person to think of all the ways in the universe
that there may be for Rossi to cheat.

Skeptics have always said and you seem to agree:  the definitive test
of the E-cat and Hyperion has to be a totally independent test by a
reliable third party.  That would acceptable to virtually all if not
absolutely all skeptics.  I can't speak for all skeptics.  It would be
quite acceptable to me if the experimenter was known and credible.  A
university department speaking officially and revealing details of
materials and method as well as detailed data would be an example of
reliable.  So would a major government lab from a Western country.

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