Susanna Gipp <susan.g...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do we have something else excepts a bunch of words ?


Yes, data.



> Do you know who they are ?
>

Yes, I said I did. Please read my message more carefully.



> These guys are all friends or in someway related to Rossi.
>

No, they are not.


Sorry but in my world "independent test" has a different meaning.
>

You know nothing about this, except for McKubre's slide. You cannot judge.



<peter.heck...@arcor.de> wrote:


> If Edison had invited Kullander and Essen, then he had not sent them home
> without definitive results.
>

He did send them home with definitive results. They are convinced. You may
not be, but they are.

If you think people were convinced by Edison, you need to read history.
Some observers and investors were convinced. Others, especially those who
refused to go and look, said:

"It would be almost a public calamity if Mr. Edison should employ his great
talent on such a puerility" - letter to Scientific American from a noted
scientist

Edison's claims are "So manifestly absurd as to indicate a positive want of
knowledge of the electric circuit and the principles governing the
construction and operation of electric machines." - Edwin Weston, arc-light
and electrical equipment manufacturer, Newark, NJ (a short distance from
Edison's lab)

"One must have lost all recollection of *American hoaxes* to accept such
claims. The sorcerer of Menlo Park appears not to be equated with the
subtleties of the electric science. Mr. Edison takes us backwards." - the
distinguished Prof. Du Moncel

After Edison displayed dozens of lights, impressed huge crowds of people,
and was lauded in the mass media, a professor who had worked with him
previously from the nearby Stevens Institute said he felt compelled "to
protest in behalf of true science" that "the results were a conspicuous
failure, trumpeted as a wonderful success. A fraud upon the public."



> Edison did never instrumentalize scientists to support his claims, he had
> not the necessity to do so.
>

He used the best instruments in the world, which he purchased for large
sums of money, or invented himself. He was able to measure a vacuum to ppm
levels.

(When I say "purchase" I mean he issued a purchase order, accepted
delivery, but he never actually paid in several cases. That was his way of
doing business.)


If Edison had promised to give a device to UniBo or Uppsala, he had done so.

If Edison had invited the european patent office for a test in a lab of
> UniBo with international high level scientists and journalists, then he had
> made this as announced in a lab of UniBo . . .


I suggest you learn something about Edison.

- Jed

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