You write too much. A lot of citations and it is unclear in which context there where made. A citation from Westinghouse, who where a competitor. (If this citation was about AC, then Westinghouse was correct. Not anything that Edison did or propagated, was a success)
I think your other statements are worse. Confindential informations out of confidential and secret sources is almost ever wrong. This is this stuff that is used at stockmarkets to get the money of unexperienced investors. I give you some private information: I got a lot of mail for soon to explode tips after I sent a mail to you, using another (commercial business) adress. All was about questionable HHO devices that are known not to fullfil their promises. This was months ago before I joined this list. Never used this mail adress for something similar. I think you are in this business. You are not believed. As soon as I hear the word "confidential" or "private" all my alarm bells ring. If its private, then please keep it private or get permission to publish. If you dont have permission then stay quiet. Peter ----- Original Nachricht ---- Von: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 19.12.2011 15:43 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:"Private information" about Rossi was the Ampernergo tests described by McKubre > Susanna Gipp <susan.g...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Do we have something else excepts a bunch of words ? > > > Yes, data. > > > > > Do you know who they are ? > > > > Yes, I said I did. Please read my message more carefully. > > > > > These guys are all friends or in someway related to Rossi. > > > > No, they are not. > > > Sorry but in my world "independent test" has a different meaning. > > > > You know nothing about this, except for McKubre's slide. You cannot judge. > > > > <peter.heck...@arcor.de> wrote: > > > > If Edison had invited Kullander and Essen, then he had not sent them home > > without definitive results. > > > > He did send them home with definitive results. They are convinced. You may > not be, but they are. > > If you think people were convinced by Edison, you need to read history. > Some observers and investors were convinced. Others, especially those who > refused to go and look, said: > > "It would be almost a public calamity if Mr. Edison should employ his great > talent on such a puerility" - letter to Scientific American from a noted > scientist > > Edison's claims are "So manifestly absurd as to indicate a positive want of > knowledge of the electric circuit and the principles governing the > construction and operation of electric machines." - Edwin Weston, arc-light > and electrical equipment manufacturer, Newark, NJ (a short distance from > Edison's lab) > > "One must have lost all recollection of *American hoaxes* to accept such > claims. The sorcerer of Menlo Park appears not to be equated with the > subtleties of the electric science. Mr. Edison takes us backwards." - the > distinguished Prof. Du Moncel > > After Edison displayed dozens of lights, impressed huge crowds of people, > and was lauded in the mass media, a professor who had worked with him > previously from the nearby Stevens Institute said he felt compelled "to > protest in behalf of true science" that "the results were a conspicuous > failure, trumpeted as a wonderful success. A fraud upon the public." > > > > > Edison did never instrumentalize scientists to support his claims, he had > > not the necessity to do so. > > > > He used the best instruments in the world, which he purchased for large > sums of money, or invented himself. He was able to measure a vacuum to ppm > levels. > > (When I say "purchase" I mean he issued a purchase order, accepted > delivery, but he never actually paid in several cases. That was his way of > doing business.) > > > If Edison had promised to give a device to UniBo or Uppsala, he had done > so. > > If Edison had invited the european patent office for a test in a lab of > > UniBo with international high level scientists and journalists, then he > had > > made this as announced in a lab of UniBo . . . > > > I suggest you learn something about Edison. > > - Jed >
