Jed,
I like you because you are romantic.
I think a little too optimistic but I can see your heart is in the right
place.
I hope you are right.
Giovanni


On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote:
>
> Jed, you have previously stated that you have private information on which
>> you base your conclusions as to the reality of Rossi. Please cut the rest
>> of us some slack! We have no way of knowing if your private information is
>> sound, or if you have been misled, or if you have drawn unsound conclusions
>> from what you know.
>>
>
> Mainly what I know was revealed by McKubre in his recent talk:
>
> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/McKubreMCHwhathappen.pdf
>
> See where it says "AmpEnerco Run I"
>
> These were independent tests done by Ampenergo before they made an
> agreement with Rossi. Various experts participated, including someone
> McKubre knows well. He trusts his expert. I know some of those people too,
> and I trust them. That is not to suggest that I can judge calorimetry as
> well as McKubre can! Far from it. But it isn't hard to judge these
> results. These tests were similar to the public tests conducted by Rossi,
> only they were independent, with someone else's instruments. Somewhat
> better instruments, proper computers and so on, but basically the same sort
> of HVAC test procedures.
>
> Okay, ask yourself this. Suppose you know that tests similar the 18-hour
> February test and the October self-sustaining tests were done, with
> instruments supplied and operated by someone you knew to be an expert, and
> a trustworthy person. Would that convince you? If the answer is yes, you
> can see why McKubre and I are pretty confident this result is real. On the
> other hand, if the HVAC-style testing does not satisfy you, then you will
> not be convinced.
>
> Mary Yugo has said she demands a blank run. As far as I know they did not
> do one. I think she wants to see a Seebeck calorimeter. I am sure they did
> not use that. So she would not be satisfied by these tests.
>
> That's all there is to it. I have no knowledge of Rossi's personal
> business. For all I know he might be robbing dozens of investors. I do not
> think he is. I have absolutely no knowledge of any such thing, no evidence,
> and frankly I could not care less if he is robbing people. I am sure his
> claims are real. That does not preclude the possibility that he is
> defrauding people; it would mean he is defrauding them with a genuine cold
> fusion reactor. Not my problem.
>
> Here is a key issue. Rossi's personality is an open book thanks to his
> website. That is unique to the 21st century. People who dismiss him because
> of his personality should think about that. Suppose in 1879 Edison had a
> kept an Internet blog while he invented the incandescent light. Suppose
> everyone could follow along with his trials and tribulations and his
> frequent crazy ideas. Now, 140 years later, you can read detailed
> biographies of him. You can read the lab notebooks. You can see why some of
> his investors lost their nerve and sold out for pennies on the dollar as he
> floundered around spending rivers of money, changing the design
> radically, apparently getting nowhere. In my opinion, his comments were no
> less extreme than Rossi's; his behavior no less erratic. That is true of
> many other famous inventors. It is also true of many ordinary programmers,
> chemists and others doing creative work that is worthy, difficult, but
> never becomes famous. It is true of some top notch gourmet chefs; a guy I
> know who can climb and cut down just about any tree with minimal equipment
> but frightful risk; and many farmers and fishermen in Yamaguchi. People who
> do extraordinary, creative, or dangerous things are sometimes odd. If they
> were not odd, they would do these things. In the past, we did not know how
> odd people such as Edison were until long after they became rich & famous,
> when all their sins were forgiven. Now, with Rossi, we learn of it in real
> time.
>
> My guess is that people such as Mary Yugo cannot look past Rossi's
> personality because they have not read many biographies, diaries and
> personal papers left by famous people. They have not met a broad range of
> people from other cultures, or eccentric people, or downright crazy people.
> I have. I mean that literally. I grew up encountering people who were
> diagnosed with mental illness, in the era before effective
> psychotropic drugs. You can read about them here:
>
>
> http://books.google.com/books/about/The_psychiatric_halfway_house.html?id=8wsEAQAAIAAJ
>
> (The authors are my mother and my aunt.)
>
> In other words, I am used to discounting personality quirks, and looking
> at the content of the work. That is not an easy thing to do. It is not
> always a wise thing to do. It just happens I am good at it, because I have
> had a lot of practice.
>
> - Jed
>
>

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