or or means simply that Darwinism and ID cannot be both true in the same time and even any intermediate or combined solution is not possible. Just from curiosity are you a Bible literalist as my friend G. including Creation and Noah's Ark. You can write directly to me< I respect your faith. Peter
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> wrote: > ** > As I indicated before, I hesitated in posting about the fallacies of > Darwinian Evolution in this forum as I find this forum extremely useful and > don't want to clutter it with other subjects. There is no need to ask me > to stop as I have stopped and said I will only respond to any question > posted about it. > > Besides, the point that I wanted to make was clearly illustrated. > > While, I respect and admire you, I wished you had been more unbiased. If > I being an adherent of Intelligent Design and beleiver were to violate the > rules of civility of this forum and suggested to James to contort and > perform that unmanageable sexual act, I would be roundly criticized and > asked to leave, and no doubt by you. Am I not right? > > Where is the unbiased, moral outrage from you regarding the blatant > violation of the rules of civility of this forum? > > Demonstrate to me that you can be level-headed and demand an apology from > James and my admiration meter for you will jump. > > While an apology from James is not required for me to refrain from > discussing this topic, the lack of moral outrage from members regarding its > absence will greatly diminish my respect for members of this forum and > further serve to reinforce my assessment that members here are not really > as open-minded as they claim to be. > > > > > Jojo > > > > BTW, what do you mean by OR/OR dispute? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com> > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Monday, May 28, 2012 12:00 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was Tritium in Ni-H LENR) > > Dear Jojo, > > I would friendly suggest you to you to stop this discussion from the > simple reason that > the analogy is not valid. > Hot Fusion and Cold Fusion (LENR) are both real and possible, alternative, > in a way complementary solutions. > Evolution and Intelligent Project are opposites,mutually exclusive- and we > (you too) > can find hundreds of forums to discuss this subject ad infinitum. I am > reading Skeptic Magazine but my good friend G. who is a famous baptist > preacher keeps me informed with ID. > I think this was the first time this OR/OR dispute > was mentioned on this forum. But the analogy will not help. > > Peter > > > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> ** >> OH my! What is your major malfunction? Are you experiencing major >> cognitive dissonance? The Darwinian Evolution Religion you've pledge >> yourself to is not as factual as you thought it was? Did I just hit a >> central nerve? I thought we were discussing with civility? I guess I just >> pissed you off too much with facts and logic. >> >> OK. Whatever. >> >> Jojo >> >> >> PS. Folks, if James' response does not illutrate my point enough, >> nothing will. Darwinian Evolution is a religion to its adherents. When >> someone brings up a good point of logic, they experience major cognitive >> dissonance and react like this. >> >> Parks experiences this everytime someone brings up evidence for Cold >> Fusion. Darwinists experience this when they can not answer a valid >> criticism of its Darwinian religion. >> >> The parallel has been clearly illustrated. My point is proven. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> >> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >> *Sent:* Sunday, May 27, 2012 10:30 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was Tritium in Ni-H LENR) >> >> OK, so you don't think you need an experiment. >> >> Go fuck yourself. >> >> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> ** >>> I am unsure about your point or what you are asking. >>> >>> What exactly is your discussion point or what exactly is your question? >>> >>> Of course,there are strong inference. For example, if you find the >>> presence of Information in DNA, that is an inference for Intelligent >>> Designer, not Darwinian Evolution based on randon chance mutations. Random >>> processes never create Information, because information is "Order", the >>> exact opposite of Randomness. >>> >>> For instance, the assembling of random letters into a coherent sentence >>> requires the input of an Intelligent being. If your throw a bunch of >>> Scrabble letters on the ground, the following 2 sentences have equal chance >>> of occuring. >>> >>> "There is a God" >>> >>> "ethresi da Go" - (No, this is not a foreign language. This >>> is a random mixture of the same letters above.) >>> >>> >>> What is the difference between the 2 sentences above. Nothing as far as >>> randon chance is concerned. Yet for an Intelligent Entity, there is a huge >>> difference. What differentiates the 2 sentences? It is Information of >>> course. There is information in the first sentence that conveys an idea? >>> And Ideas are the purvue of Intelligent Beings. >>> >>> Now, do this with 4 letters and create a sentence 600,000 letters long; >>> you might begin to understand the complexity and the remarkable presence of >>> Information in our DNA. >>> >>> >>> Jojo >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> >>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 27, 2012 9:42 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was Tritium in Ni-H LENR) >>> >>> No. I'm talking about the scientific technique of strong inference. >>> >>> In strong inference you are not simply testing a hypothesis. You are >>> admitting multiple hypotheses in the formulation of your experiments and >>> attempting to most economically compare them. It is legitimate, of course, >>> to have any number of experiments to achieve this comparison. >>> >>> In this case, there are two hypotheses: Darwinian Evolution and >>> Intelligent Design. >>> >>> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 6:27 AM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> ** >>>> Distinguish what from what? >>>> >>>> Are you asking if there are experiments in Darwinian Evolution and >>>> experiments in Intelligent Design? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:* James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> >>>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 27, 2012 7:08 PM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was Tritium in Ni-H LENR) >>>> >>>> Jojo, >>>> >>>> Where is the controlled experiment that distinguishes between the two? >>>> There are LOTS of controlled experiments demonstrating cold fusion. >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > Dr. Peter Gluck > Cluj, Romania > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
