I find your assesment of me rather amusing.
So I am more theory than experiment? OK, whatever.
This will be my last response to you. You're welcome to have the last word.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bowery
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was Tritium in Ni-H LENR)
Jojo, just so you don't feel too bad, I would consider it to be morally
justifiable to draw and quarter the editors of Nature magazine that suppressed
replication of cold fusion. Your dedication to theory over experiment is
merely worthy of contempt.
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why on Earth would you think that I think experiments are unneccesary? I
am spending a small fortune right now conducting experiments. And that my
friend is more than what you are currently doing or prepared to do.
You know, one thing is clear. Your hostility towards me is not stemming
from any Cold Fusion experiments I am doing or for any other post I've made,
but simply because I indicated I am a believer and I brought up some good
points that is causing you a tizzy spell.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bowery
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was Tritium in Ni-H LENR)
No, Jojo has no business in this forum for the simple reason that he
thinks experiments are unnecessary to science. Nature magazine, too, decided
that experiments were unnecessary when the British editor deferred to the US
editor regarding Oriani's replication of cold fusion, and the US editor
rejected the paper, because it went against prevailing theory.
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Peter Gluck <peter.gl...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear Jojo,
I would friendly suggest you to you to stop this discussion from the
simple reason that
the analogy is not valid.
Hot Fusion and Cold Fusion (LENR) are both real and possible,
alternative, in a way complementary solutions.
Evolution and Intelligent Project are opposites,mutually exclusive- and
we (you too)
can find hundreds of forums to discuss this subject ad infinitum. I am
reading Skeptic Magazine but my good friend G. who is a famous baptist preacher
keeps me informed with ID.
I think this was the first time this OR/OR dispute
was mentioned on this forum. But the analogy will not help.
Peter
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
OH my! What is your major malfunction? Are you experiencing major
cognitive dissonance? The Darwinian Evolution Religion you've pledge yourself
to is not as factual as you thought it was? Did I just hit a central nerve?
I thought we were discussing with civility? I guess I just pissed you off too
much with facts and logic.
OK. Whatever.
Jojo
PS. Folks, if James' response does not illutrate my point enough,
nothing will. Darwinian Evolution is a religion to its adherents. When
someone brings up a good point of logic, they experience major cognitive
dissonance and react like this.
Parks experiences this everytime someone brings up evidence for Cold
Fusion. Darwinists experience this when they can not answer a valid criticism
of its Darwinian religion.
The parallel has been clearly illustrated. My point is proven.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bowery
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was Tritium in Ni-H LENR)
OK, so you don't think you need an experiment.
Go fuck yourself.
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I am unsure about your point or what you are asking.
What exactly is your discussion point or what exactly is your
question?
Of course,there are strong inference. For example, if you find
the presence of Information in DNA, that is an inference for Intelligent
Designer, not Darwinian Evolution based on randon chance mutations. Random
processes never create Information, because information is "Order", the exact
opposite of Randomness.
For instance, the assembling of random letters into a coherent
sentence requires the input of an Intelligent being. If your throw a bunch of
Scrabble letters on the ground, the following 2 sentences have equal chance of
occuring.
"There is a God"
"ethresi da Go" - (No, this is not a foreign language.
This is a random mixture of the same letters above.)
What is the difference between the 2 sentences above. Nothing as
far as randon chance is concerned. Yet for an Intelligent Entity, there is a
huge difference. What differentiates the 2 sentences? It is Information of
course. There is information in the first sentence that conveys an idea? And
Ideas are the purvue of Intelligent Beings.
Now, do this with 4 letters and create a sentence 600,000 letters
long; you might begin to understand the complexity and the remarkable presence
of Information in our DNA.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bowery
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was Tritium in Ni-H LENR)
No. I'm talking about the scientific technique of strong
inference.
In strong inference you are not simply testing a hypothesis.
You are admitting multiple hypotheses in the formulation of your experiments
and attempting to most economically compare them. It is legitimate, of course,
to have any number of experiments to achieve this comparison.
In this case, there are two hypotheses: Darwinian Evolution
and Intelligent Design.
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 6:27 AM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Distinguish what from what?
Are you asking if there are experiments in Darwinian
Evolution and experiments in Intelligent Design?
----- Original Message -----
From: James Bowery
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Darwinian Evolution (Was Tritium in Ni-H
LENR)
Jojo,
Where is the controlled experiment that distinguishes
between the two? There are LOTS of controlled experiments demonstrating cold
fusion.
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
