The crystal, moving at supersonic and greater speeds, is surrounding by a
bow shock like a fighter plane. This supersonic speed is determined by the
speed of sound of the material that carries the shockwave. The positively
charged crystal is attracted to its own negatively charged bow shock by the
Casimir Force and coherently extracts zero point energy on a large scale.

Because electrons are 1800 times lighter than ions at a minimum but up to
1,000,000 times lighter than a complex crystal, the electron shockwave
precedes the ion wave. In the Papp reaction, the electron shock wave
precedes  the ion shockwave and pulls the ions along with it but does not
touch it.

The crystal then accelerates to what appears to be relativistic speeds in
very short distances. We can get an idea about what this distance is from
our study of cavatation.

>From cavatation, the plasmoid imparts maximum force when the plasmoid is
offset by six plasmoid diameters of the substrate wall. This bubble
standoff distance results in the maximum shockwave impact damage.


Cheers:    Axil

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:

> A thought just occurred to me.  If the ionic crystals are riding upon a
> force generated by the Casimir effect, does this represent some form of
> reactionless force?  What is pushed in the opposite direction to compensate
> for the momentum of the LeClair crystals?  It appears that they exhibit
> enormous momentum and energy that cuts long grooves into the nearby metals.
>
>  Has anyone explored this issue?
>
>  Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:39 pm
> Subject: [Vo]:Supersonic shockwave acceleration processes
>
>  I am interested in the possible association of
> zero-point-energy/electrostatic based supersonic shockwave acceleration
> processes that occur as a consequence of ionic crystal formation during
> cavatation bubble collapse and the closely related plasma reaction in the
> Papp engine which might occur in the plasmoid formation process in heavy
> noble gases.
>
> The Plasmoid that is formed by the spark discharge in a noble gas mix
> might be analogous to what happens in the collapse of a single large
> cavatation bubble.
>
> The Plasmoid both acts like and might be thought of as a manifestation of
> a single large collapsing cavitation bubble.
>
> In more detail, what Mark LeClair has observed as positive ionic
> crystallization formation in water that is catalyzed in the high pressure
> plasma generation during cavatation in water may also be happening in ionic
> positively charge  krypton and xenon crystal formation in the Papp reaction.
>
> I believe that this idea is justifiable since cavatation damage also
> occurs in liquid sodium and molten salt pumps at levels of up to ten times
> more intense as is happening in water.
>
> Positive ionic crystallization formation can happen in many types of ionic
> elements and chemical compounds in both liquids and gases.
> Here is a recent YouTube based interview covering cavitation with Mark
> LeClair.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Gqd34R5OQ
>
> In this interview, Mark LeClair believes that LENR happens in cavatation.
> But  a deeper level of abstraction is needed in his thinking.  LENR
> actually is based on the action of positively charged ionic super-atomic
> crystals.
>
>
>

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