Sorry, I cannot resist, though I'm sure it's appeared here before.

*Buzz <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000741/>*: I need to repair my turbo
boosters. Are you still using fossil fuels, or have you discovered
crystallic fusion?
*Woody <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000158/>*: Well, let's see, we got
double-A's.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114709/quotes

Jeff


On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> “Whatever it is, it seems that the presence of the metal/water surface is
> important for this second effect to be self sustaining. It appears that
> there is feedback which results in the projectile neither burrowing into
> the metal or leaving the metal surface. I feel there is a clue here
> somewhere”
>
> Standard scientific doctrinaire says that the positive highly charged
> ionic crystal will immediately gain electrons and become neutral in charge
> when the crystal hits the substrate.
>
> If this charge neutralization process does not happen, the positive ionic
> charge is maintained almost indefinitely.
>
> More interesting, LeClair says he has seen damage from these crystals in
> his walls and in trees outside his windows.
>
> Something is keeping these crystals charged.
>
> If these crystals can be produced on demand and in mass in a handy
> handheld system they would make for a formidable weapon; a disruptor beam.
> We have until the 24th century to figure this thing out so that we can
> keep to the “STAR TRAC” technology development timeline.
>
>
> Cheers:       Axil
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Nigel Dyer <l...@thedyers.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Having discussed what he appears to have seen with Mark L, I ended up
>> coming to the conclusion that there are possibly two separate effects that
>> we may need to consider.
>>
>> First there is whatever it is that happens within the cavitation bubble
>> that starts the process off.  In situations where cavitation causes damage
>> to nearby surfaces this is probably the only effect in town.
>>
>> In LeClairs later experiment where there are score lines across the
>> surface of metal, I suspect that there is a second self sustaining effect,
>> possibly involving bow waves and casimir forces, although I was not left
>> totally convinced by LeClair's casimir force explanation.
>>
>> Whatever it is, it seems that the presence of the metal/water surface is
>> important for this second effect to be self sustaining.   It appears that
>> there is feedback which results in the projectile neither burrowing into
>> the metal or leaving the metal surface.   I feel there is a clue here
>> somewhere
>>
>> Nigel
>>
>>
>> On 11/11/2012 03:39, Axil Axil wrote:
>>
>>> I am interested in the possible association of
>>> zero-point-energy/**electrostatic based supersonic shockwave
>>> acceleration
>>> processes that occur as a consequence of ionic crystal formation during
>>> cavatation bubble collapse and the closely related plasma reaction in the
>>> Papp engine which might occur in the plasmoid formation process in heavy
>>> noble gases.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Plasmoid that is formed by the spark discharge in a noble gas mix
>>> might
>>> be analogous to what happens in the collapse of a single large cavatation
>>> bubble.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Plasmoid both acts like and might be thought of as a manifestation
>>> of a
>>> single large collapsing cavitation bubble.
>>>
>>>
>>> In more detail, what Mark LeClair has observed as positive ionic
>>> crystallization formation in water that is catalyzed in the high pressure
>>> plasma generation during cavatation in water may also be happening in
>>> ionic
>>> positively charge  krypton and xenon crystal formation in the Papp
>>> reaction.
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe that this idea is justifiable since cavatation damage also
>>> occurs
>>> in liquid sodium and molten salt pumps at levels of up to ten times more
>>> intense as is happening in water.
>>>
>>>
>>> Positive ionic crystallization formation can happen in many types of
>>> ionic
>>> elements and chemical compounds in both liquids and gases.
>>>
>>> Here is a recent YouTube based interview covering cavitation with Mark
>>> LeClair.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=a7Gqd34R5OQ<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Gqd34R5OQ>
>>>
>>>
>>> In this interview, Mark LeClair believes that LENR happens in cavatation.
>>> But  a deeper level of abstraction is needed in his thinking.  LENR
>>> actually is based on the action of positively charged ionic super-atomic
>>> crystals.
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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