The process appears very interesting but I still do not understand what material is forced to move in opposition to the high energy forward accelerating crystal. If the electrons are the source of the energy, then they would slow down quickly as the energy is fed to the ions I would suspect. I am seeking an understanding of the equivalent to the rocket exhaust which carries away the same quantity of momentum as the forward accelerating rocket.
If the Casimir Force can be modulated to be one sided as this seems to suggest, then it would appear like a reaction less engine which would be a fine discovery. Another way to consider this question is to ask whether or not the center of mass changes during the event. This does not normally happen within a closed system in physics. Perhaps my question is rather vague. It would be easier for me to believe that all of the momentum occurs due to the collapse of the bubble and the resulting reactionary motion of the water. This would imply that there would be no extra Casimir energy required. Has the energy released by the laser burst been compared to that of the water crystal jet? If less energy is imparted to the work surface then there may be no need for extra zero point energy. Forgive me if I seem to have a hang up regarding zero point energy as I believe that standard CoE is capable of handling this process. I guess that the free lunch has always been just out of my reach! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 11, 2012 12:11 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Supersonic shockwave acceleration processes The crystal, moving at supersonic and greater speeds, is surrounding by a bow shock like a fighter plane. This supersonic speed is determined by the speed of sound of the material that carries the shockwave. The positively charged crystal is attracted to its own negatively charged bow shock by the Casimir Force and coherently extracts zero point energy on a large scale. Because electrons are 1800 times lighter than ions at a minimum but up to 1,000,000 times lighter than a complex crystal, the electron shockwave precedes the ion wave. In the Papp reaction, the electron shock wave precedes the ion shockwave and pulls the ions along with it but does not touch it. The crystal then accelerates to what appears to be relativistic speeds in very short distances. We can get an idea about what this distance is from our study of cavatation. >From cavatation, the plasmoid imparts maximum force when the plasmoid is >offset by six plasmoid diameters of the substrate wall. This bubble standoff >distance results in the maximum shockwave impact damage. Cheers: Axil On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: A thought just occurred to me. If the ionic crystals are riding upon a force generated by the Casimir effect, does this represent some form of reactionless force? What is pushed in the opposite direction to compensate for the momentum of the LeClair crystals? It appears that they exhibit enormous momentum and energy that cuts long grooves into the nearby metals. Has anyone explored this issue? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:39 pm Subject: [Vo]:Supersonic shockwave acceleration processes I am interested in the possible association of zero-point-energy/electrostatic based supersonic shockwave acceleration processes that occur as a consequence of ionic crystal formation during cavatation bubble collapse and the closely related plasma reaction in the Papp engine which might occur in the plasmoid formation process in heavy noble gases. The Plasmoid that is formed by the spark discharge in a noble gas mix might be analogous to what happens in the collapse of a single large cavatation bubble. The Plasmoid both acts like and might be thought of as a manifestation of a single large collapsing cavitation bubble. In more detail, what Mark LeClair has observed as positive ionic crystallization formation in water that is catalyzed in the high pressure plasma generation during cavatation in water may also be happening in ionic positively charge krypton and xenon crystal formation in the Papp reaction. I believe that this idea is justifiable since cavatation damage also occurs in liquid sodium and molten salt pumps at levels of up to ten times more intense as is happening in water. Positive ionic crystallization formation can happen in many types of ionic elements and chemical compounds in both liquids and gases. Here is a recent YouTube based interview covering cavitation with Mark LeClair. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Gqd34R5OQ In this interview, Mark LeClair believes that LENR happens in cavatation. But a deeper level of abstraction is needed in his thinking. LENR actually is based on the action of positively charged ionic super-atomic crystals.
