Having discussed what he appears to have seen with Mark L, I ended up
coming to the conclusion that there are possibly two separate effects
that we may need to consider.
First there is whatever it is that happens within the cavitation bubble
that starts the process off. In situations where cavitation causes
damage to nearby surfaces this is probably the only effect in town.
In LeClairs later experiment where there are score lines across the
surface of metal, I suspect that there is a second self sustaining
effect, possibly involving bow waves and casimir forces, although I was
not left totally convinced by LeClair's casimir force explanation.
Whatever it is, it seems that the presence of the metal/water surface is
important for this second effect to be self sustaining. It appears
that there is feedback which results in the projectile neither burrowing
into the metal or leaving the metal surface. I feel there is a clue
here somewhere
Nigel
On 11/11/2012 03:39, Axil Axil wrote:
I am interested in the possible association of
zero-point-energy/electrostatic based supersonic shockwave acceleration
processes that occur as a consequence of ionic crystal formation during
cavatation bubble collapse and the closely related plasma reaction in the
Papp engine which might occur in the plasmoid formation process in heavy
noble gases.
The Plasmoid that is formed by the spark discharge in a noble gas mix might
be analogous to what happens in the collapse of a single large cavatation
bubble.
The Plasmoid both acts like and might be thought of as a manifestation of a
single large collapsing cavitation bubble.
In more detail, what Mark LeClair has observed as positive ionic
crystallization formation in water that is catalyzed in the high pressure
plasma generation during cavatation in water may also be happening in ionic
positively charge krypton and xenon crystal formation in the Papp reaction.
I believe that this idea is justifiable since cavatation damage also occurs
in liquid sodium and molten salt pumps at levels of up to ten times more
intense as is happening in water.
Positive ionic crystallization formation can happen in many types of ionic
elements and chemical compounds in both liquids and gases.
Here is a recent YouTube based interview covering cavitation with Mark
LeClair.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Gqd34R5OQ
In this interview, Mark LeClair believes that LENR happens in cavatation.
But a deeper level of abstraction is needed in his thinking. LENR
actually is based on the action of positively charged ionic super-atomic
crystals.