The following paper has a video at it bottom that shows what a vortex
shaped plasmoid looks like when it hits the substrate (piston)

http://arxiv.org/pdf/0910.3175


On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The crystal, moving at supersonic and greater speeds, is surrounding by a
> bow shock like a fighter plane. This supersonic speed is determined by the
> speed of sound of the material that carries the shockwave. The positively
> charged crystal is attracted to its own negatively charged bow shock by the
> Casimir Force and coherently extracts zero point energy on a large scale.
>
> Because electrons are 1800 times lighter than ions at a minimum but up to
> 1,000,000 times lighter than a complex crystal, the electron shockwave
> precedes the ion wave. In the Papp reaction, the electron shock wave
> precedes  the ion shockwave and pulls the ions along with it but does not
> touch it.
>
> The crystal then accelerates to what appears to be relativistic speeds in
> very short distances. We can get an idea about what this distance is from
> our study of cavatation.
>
> From cavatation, the plasmoid imparts maximum force when the plasmoid is
> offset by six plasmoid diameters of the substrate wall. This bubble
> standoff distance results in the maximum shockwave impact damage.
>
>
> Cheers:    Axil
>
> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>wrote:
>
>> A thought just occurred to me.  If the ionic crystals are riding upon a
>> force generated by the Casimir effect, does this represent some form of
>> reactionless force?  What is pushed in the opposite direction to compensate
>> for the momentum of the LeClair crystals?  It appears that they exhibit
>> enormous momentum and energy that cuts long grooves into the nearby metals.
>>
>>  Has anyone explored this issue?
>>
>>  Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>> Sent: Sat, Nov 10, 2012 10:39 pm
>> Subject: [Vo]:Supersonic shockwave acceleration processes
>>
>>  I am interested in the possible association of
>> zero-point-energy/electrostatic based supersonic shockwave acceleration
>> processes that occur as a consequence of ionic crystal formation during
>> cavatation bubble collapse and the closely related plasma reaction in the
>> Papp engine which might occur in the plasmoid formation process in heavy
>> noble gases.
>>
>> The Plasmoid that is formed by the spark discharge in a noble gas mix
>> might be analogous to what happens in the collapse of a single large
>> cavatation bubble.
>>
>> The Plasmoid both acts like and might be thought of as a manifestation of
>> a single large collapsing cavitation bubble.
>>
>> In more detail, what Mark LeClair has observed as positive ionic
>> crystallization formation in water that is catalyzed in the high pressure
>> plasma generation during cavatation in water may also be happening in ionic
>> positively charge  krypton and xenon crystal formation in the Papp reaction.
>>
>> I believe that this idea is justifiable since cavatation damage also
>> occurs in liquid sodium and molten salt pumps at levels of up to ten times
>> more intense as is happening in water.
>>
>> Positive ionic crystallization formation can happen in many types of
>> ionic elements and chemical compounds in both liquids and gases.
>> Here is a recent YouTube based interview covering cavitation with Mark
>> LeClair.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Gqd34R5OQ
>>
>> In this interview, Mark LeClair believes that LENR happens in cavatation.
>> But  a deeper level of abstraction is needed in his thinking.  LENR
>> actually is based on the action of positively charged ionic super-atomic
>> crystals.
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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