I couldn't agree more. I even tried to call myself a turd to try to bring
home the point that it is not worth the effort to insult me. But still,
Lomax and others see it fit to play with the turd. LOL.... Heck, I want
nothing more than for people to ignore me if they disagree, but I have as
much right to express an opinion without insults. And as a matter of fact,
I was discussing calmly with civility before Lomax started insulting again.
That is a fact that you can verify.
As for Joseph Hao, he is a good friend. We used to work together on some
free energy projects most notably on some HHO and Veg Oil/ Biodiesel
projects and we were co-workers for a while. We went to graduate school
together in San Diego State (MS Computer Science) a long time ago. This was
a common email we used on all our free energy projects correspondence. He
was the one who first subscribed this account to Vortex-L I have been
exclusively using this email since I left the country. Yes, he is in
Atlanta and he is in fact a CCIE RS and is studying for his CCIE Voice.
Jojo
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Horace Heffner" <hheff...@mtaonline.net>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:List integrity
I suggest that the blame for ridiculously long OT troll induced threads
lies not as much with the initiator as with those who respond to the
troll. If there is banning to be done the respondents should be banned
also.
Who is the bigger fool, a troll, or someone who argues with the troll?
Also, I feel compelled to note the content of vortex has gone down hill
since a bunch of fake email names have showed up. This is a weak shield
for a coward to hide behind, but still it encourages behavior unbecoming
a scientific list. There are many services that will provide reverse
lookup information for email addresses, so it is ultimately an
ineffective ruse. Sometimes merely googleing an email address will yield
the identity. For example, google (jth...@hotmail.com) quickly yields:
http://www.voiceie.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?
ubb=print_topic;f=1;t=000124
http://tinyurl.com/cre6cfd
which may or may not correctly identify Jojo Jaro as Joseph Hao in
Atlanta.
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"To visit this topic, use this URL:
http://www.voiceie.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=000124
Posted by Joseph Hao (Member # 3289) on June 14, 2004, 02:42 PM:
Any folks out there studying for CCIE Voice Lab in Atlanta?
[snip]
Joseph
CCIE #9273
jth...@hotmail.com"
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In any case it seems to me the response to a troll should be to not
respond, the response to frauds the opposite, to expose every flaw, and
warn off victims. To bullies the response should be to do what you want
and ignore the bully. The response to truly disruptive and egregious or
unlawful behavior should be to use the tools provided by ISPs. The
response to bad behavior under fake identities is perhaps to expose the
identity - which has worked well here in the past to eliminate nonsense
from a guy from down under if I recall. 8^)
That's my 2 cents worth, from a member of the list for over 15 years.
Resuming lurk mode.
Best Regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
