We all agree that a method must be found to release mass-energy without producing energetic particles or energetic radiation. To do this, the D nuclei must form a relationship within a structure (cluster) that is unique.
Transactions of Fusion Technology, Vol. 26, Number 4T, Part 2, December 1994: p. xiii. This paper was presented at The Fourth International Conference on Cold Fusion, 1993. (ICCF-4) Lahaina, Maui, Dec. 6-9, by Eugene Mallove in place of Julian Schwinger. Schwinger died in July 1994. Cold Fusion Theory www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/SchwingerJcoldfusionb.pdf This paper addresses the question of conservation of energy and momentum as a coupling of phonons within the lattice with the LENR reaction in the nucleus. I am receptive to this concept as a mechanism to moderate high energy nuclear emissions. Cheers: Axil On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: > Kevin, having given this more thought, if you want to apply the BEC > concept to the hydroton that I propose is the active structure in LENR, > I'm listening. We all agree that a method must be found to release > mass-energy without producing energetic particles or energetic radiation. > To do this, the D nuclei must form a relationship within a structure > (cluster) that is unique. Perhaps the BEC has the required properties, but > this is not obvious based on the arguments made so far. > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From: *Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> > *Date: *February 12, 2013 3:29:09 PM MST > *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Cc: *Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> > *Subject: **Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature* > > The problem is that apparently we are not talking about the same thing or > even using the same concepts. I'm taking about cold fusion and you are > talking about BEC. You are making all kinds of assumptions based on theory > while I'm trying to describe what is present in the real world. I know > how lasers can be used to cool. That is not how lasers are used when they > are applied to cold fusion. I know that claims are made that BEC can be > produced at room temperature based on how energy fields behave. This, in my > opinion, has no relationship to how deuterons behave in PdD. Unfortunately > I do not have the time to reach an understanding here, even if this were > possible. I can only give you my objections to your conclusions. > > Ed > On Feb 12, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > > Dr. Storms: A short hand approach has to be used because neither one of > us has the time to explain everything in detail. > ***Can you please clarify whether you are using some kind of shorthand > approach on the Nanocavities thread? Because formation of BECs using > lasers to COOL the environment & removing energy from the system was how > Dr. Chu got his Nobel Prize. It pointed to the possibility of BECs forming > at higher temperatures, and now we have this evidence that BECs can form at > room temperature. > > > > On the Nanocavities thread, you wrote > Re: > [Vo]:nanocavities<http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.com&q=subject:%22Re%3A+%5BVo%5D%3Ananocavities%22> > > Edmund > Storms<http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.com&q=from:%22Edmund+Storms%22>Sun, > 10 Feb 2013 08:08:52 > -0800<http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.com&q=date:20130210> > I don't understand your point. Laser stimulation has been done many times > and it simply adds energy to the process. Energy can be added by increased > temperature and application of applied current, which also increases the > power. This changes nothing basic about the process nor reveals how the > process works. > > Ed > > > > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: > >> >>> >>> >> >> Sorry, I thought I had made the point often enough that very little >> radiation is detected that I got sloppy. The point is that large amounts >> of energetic radiation are not detected. Yes, a little radiation is >> detected that is energetic enough to get out of the apparatus. However, a >> large amount of radiation would be created inside the apparatus. If you >> read my papers, you would already know exactly what I claim. >> >> >>> >> > >