I agree 100% Terry..the best way -by far- to convince the majority of skeptics is a self-running machine.
Maybe the only way. There are tons of calorimetry data already at the watt and subwatt level. We need some drama at this stage. A self-runner should be high on the list. Speaking of staged drama, there is always the message of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_Reaction_%28film%29 But don't chuckle too loudly as it could very easily be the case that LENR does involve a certain kind of chain reaction to reach a reliable level of operation. Of course, it is NOT a neutron chain reaction, as in fission, but it could involve subatomic bosons of some kind instead, or even a QM "probability field" critical-mass level. If there is such a requirement, and who is to say that there isn't - then something akin to a critical-mass of nanopowder will provide the basis of a self-runner, and the material cost is too expensive for anyone without deep pockets to do on their own - even a University would balk at the up-front cost. For the sake of argument, let's say one of Miley's graduate assistants ran a computer simulation based on the nanopowder of Arata, Ahern and others - and Lenuco based its proposal on that simulation. it envisions the need for say 20 kilograms of 10 nm nickel alloy. The going price is around $17/gram, but in this volume QSI would do it for $200,000. This kind of circumstance may never get done without ARPA-E money. In fact, we should applaud any effort to jump-start LENR by using a much larger format. It simply hasn't been done and it is hard to rule out until it is done. From: Terry Blanton Jed Rothwell wrote: If you can prove the cold fusion device produces heat, you best do that by the simplest means, which is calorimetry. Wait a minute. Aren't you the guy that keeps saying the best proof is a self running machine? Closed loop?