But this is not a demonstrated device. It is a drawing of what Miley
would like to see work. I could provide a drawing also, but where
would I get the fuel? The fuel is the problem. Once a fuel that makes
a lot of heat for long periods is available, the engineering design
will follow. This is getting the cart before the horse. In fact, it is
a proposed design of a cart before the horse is even known to exist.
Suppose the best design is a thin coating of active material on a heat
pipe to which a source of ions is supplied, which is a likely
configuration. The design Miley suggested would not be useful. The
purpose of submitting this design is to get funding to explore LENR,
not to show how it can be applied. Once the phenomenon is understood,
the application designs will be endless.
Ed
On Mar 5, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Terry Blanton <[email protected]> wrote:
Wait a minute. Aren't you the guy that keeps saying the best proof
is a self running machine? Closed loop?
Oh yeah. Sure, if you can pull that off on a reasonably large scale.
But a small toy-like device would not be convincing because a
battery can be hidden in it. Yes, you can run it for a long time to
overcome that objection but there is induction or a fine wire or
what-have-you. I remember as a kid making HO scale railroad gadgets
with lights and moving parts that seemed stand-alone.
I was assuming this would be a physically small device. Not sure of
the details. The one that Dennis Cravens is talking about is ~10 W I
think. That's too small for a convincing self-running machine. My
gut feeling is that he should stick to a calorimeter. Somewhere
around ~50 W, where the heat become undeniably tactile and you can
produce significant electricity, maybe look at a toy. Arata made a
toy at around 1 or 2 W with analog watch motor. It was unconvincing.
Maybe I am confused about the scale or the use of the word "toy,"
which may not imply a small device, but rather a simplified proof of
principle device.
Assuming Rossi's gadgets are real, just having one the size of a
shoebox producing a kilowatt or so for week would be all the proof
you need. Make it a hot water heater. The simplest method of HVAC
calorimetry would be fine.
- Jed
