Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: >
> I agree 100% Terry….the best way -by far- to convince the majority of > skeptics is a self-running machine. **** > > ** ** > > Maybe the only way. There are tons of calorimetry data already at the watt > and subwatt level. We need some drama at this stage. A self-runner should > be high on the list. > But not when it is done in a piss-poor implementation the way Arata did it. That's my point. He proved you can make a self-running machine that does not even come close to convincing *me*, and I am an easy sell. A self running machine has to incorporate some design elements that make it obvious the thing is not fake. - Jed