And this is why I asked the question I did. When I got the answer I did, I was rendered speechless.
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]> wrote: > I doubt many people on this list have written a proposal to get funding > from a US government agency or evaluated such proposals, but I have. > Certain requirement are demanded. These in part are: the reason why the > program is important to the country , the exact way the money will be > used, and the expected result have to be shown. These requirements are > difficult to satisfy when money is requested for LENR. No money would be > given if a person provided an engineering design based on a hypothetical > energy source and then expected to develop the energy source. The > reviewers are not fools and know exactly what is being requested and the > chance of success based on the proposal. If a person wants money, they > must show that the energy source is real and exactly how they will make it > better. This is not easy to do at the present time when proposing to study > LENR. > > Ed > On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:48 AM, DJ Cravens wrote: > > > Many think you can take a great leap from a small experiment to some grand > system. (Rossi has tried that but I am afraid it will not end well for > him.) But I don’t think it works like that. You set a goal that is just > outside what you know and what you have experience with and then you try. > You learn from the attempt and the journey. You see things that you > would not have predicted. Different people have different equipment, > different support, and different viewpoints. Thus, they take different > approaches.**** > > I prefer to try to take only a step of a factor of 10 or so with the LENR > part but have a platform ready to take the next step if I am successful and > then scale it once more and then again. “You don't have tosee the whole > staircase, just take the first step”-- Martin Luther King**** > > I am not sure if George will get his grant or be successful if he does. > However, > I am confident that he will learn from the attempt itself. To ask for any > more at this time is not realistic.**** > > > ------------------------------ > From: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 12:15:37 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miley Arpa-E startup project reloaded! vote for for 10 > days.. hurry up > To: [email protected] > > I understand well the skepticism of many on Miley. > As far as I know Miley have no validated reactor. He has a rational > project, which can be written on the back of a Post-it. The image is an > artistic vision, which I hope is not the final engineering result. > > However I deeply disagree with the cognitive dissonance that I observe all > the time on LENR. LENR is real, so it is NORMAL SCIENCE, in a > psychiatric hospital for depressive people called Western World. > It tooks 5 months with a normal team for Defkalion to make a first > reactor. I know people comfortably doubt on them, but the behavioral > evidences are clear. I'm not living in the conspiracy theorist world where > all is in doubt. I live in a human world, enclosing the business world, > where people a rationally crazy. > > However the biggest reason to support this project for an ultra-light > startup is that OTHER PROJECTS ARE NO BETTER. They also have crazy > artists scheme, unproven ideas, many challenges. Some are based on known > theories, but engineers can tell you that it does not make things work > better. All have big chance to fail, yet to give lessons. > > For me the challenge of Miley is not around LENR, if he works with good > experts (in material science), but around harnessing TEG and most of all, > organizational and mass psychiatry. > > Of course I assume that in such a startup he will work with a normal > engineer team, and not in a garage. Maybe I underestimated that risk. > > More than success of creating that startup, I imagine that this can put > the focus on LENR and call interest on emerging business that > flourish today. > My forecast if Miley win the vote is that it will be anyway rejected, but > some more people will hear of LENR, and they will see the facts better than > the government. > > I remember reading one book of the Fondation trilogy by Asimov. When the > Empire is collapsing, even a great general cannot save it, because the > intrinsic stupidity is impossible to fight, even by a genius. > As said Defkalion recently there is no hope from governments. > I just hope to catch some interest of people at the border of the Empire > of Stupidity where I live currently. > > >
