Jones, I agree with you completely. That is why I have spent the last
24 years of my time investigating this effect. LENR is real and Rossi
has seen it operate. However, the rest of us have to figure out what
he actually saw and how LENR actually behaves. We can do this by
using knowledge and logic or instead simply have the discussion
degenerate into random thoughts and ignorant notions. You have been
very effective in keeping the discussion focused, but this has not
been the general behavior. As you know, standards need to be imposed
on any discussion if it is to result in a useful conclusion. Instead,
I see the discussions on Vortex increasingly drift into Alice and
Wonderland or, as you accurately point out, into Angels and pins. But
we all now know where that approach went. Perhaps, stepping back and
agreeing on some basic facts might be worthwhile. I will suggest some
if anyone is interested.
Ed Storms
On Apr 30, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Edmund Storms
First, most people believe Rossi is a fraud and cannot be believed,
but they will nevertheless believe him when he claims his heat results
from transmutation of Ni. They believe him when he claims Cu is the
result and now when Fe is suggested. Yet, absolutely no evidence
exists for these claims. Nevertheless, long and detailed discussions
result.
I agree that in the normal realm of online discussion, it is not
logical to
waste time on the claims of someone like Rossi - since his so-called
"demonstrations" could have been little more than theatrics, and he is
obviously a dishonest person at heart - with a background that is
probably
more despicable than anyone imagines.
However...
It's kind like during the Middle Ages when the most educated men,
Bishops
and Cardinals, etc would debate on how many angels can fit on the
head of
pin... which as we know - that kind of discussion is now a modern
metaphor
for wasting time debating topics of no practical value.
At that time in History - there was nothing of greater value in the
minds of
these men than Angels and Divinity.
Likewise today - at least on Vortex, there is nothing in Science of
greater
value to society than the proper understanding of LENR. It
represents the
best "game changing" strategy for getting away from fossil fuel -
which is
essentially why we are willing to overlook character flaws in Rossi,
if
there is even the most remote chance that he could have found the
"Holy
Grail" ... so to speak. And no matter how flakey the demos were,
there is no
doubt in my mind that Rossi did show something...
... how many Angels did you say, Brother?
