On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Joshua Cude <joshua.c...@gmail.com>wrote: > > >> But when they use 3-phase, when single would do, when the wiring is in >> place ahead of time, when close associates chose the instruments which are >> completely inadequate, when the blank run uses different conditions, when >> the input timing is determined from a video tape, and when the claim is as >> unlikely as cheese-power, it is ok to be suspicious. >> > > Yes. Some of these things legitimately raise questions. No one is > claiming the experiment was ironclad. With sufficient information of what > transpired, there is a possibility that it was done quite well, despite > doubts that people may have. What we have now is a second draft of the > writeup, dropped into the Internet. > > The three-phase power seems like a nonissue to me. > I disagree. I can see no need for it to supply thermal energy at 1 kW or less. And it does complicate measurement, and open possibilities for deception. It also forces the experimenters to use a particular mains line, which if tampered with, would not be detected by any other instrumentation. And it makes available much higher input power. It's like using a 500 kW generator to power a megacat with 500 kW claimed output. It invites suspicion in a demonstration that was supposed to be designed to eliminate suspicion. > The instruments were not necessarily inadequate if they were used in > conjunction with other ones. > No other ones were reported in the paper, which was written to validate the claims. > We have already heard that Hartmann checked the voltage on the line. > I thought he was just talking about the voltage readings from the 830, which don't add much. I haven't been able to keep up though. Maybe I missed something. > That would have required stripping it of the shielding, which would have > revealed any cheese power trickery. > > > Not so. Tinsel also checked voltages and continuity and frequency in the second video without revealing the trick.