If you take an extreme example it makes the process clear.  Suppose there 
exists a large current loop located a mile away from an electron source.  The 
point where the electron exits the gun has a magnetic field that is measurable 
arising from this source and at right angles to the path it will take.  The 
instant the electron leaves the source it become deflected by the magnetic 
field that exists at that precise point in time.  It does not have to wait 
until its motion is detected at the loop to begin the curvature.

In this case, the electron is subject to a right angle force immediately due to 
the field being present and not after a few microseconds of delay.  Notice that 
there would be no deflection had there not been an existing magnetic field.

An electric field from a large charge at a mile would behave in a similar 
manner.  In that case, the electron would immediately begin accelerating toward 
the positive charge source and actually gaining energy as well as momentum.  
The field itself must be the source of the force being experienced by the 
electron since the actual charge causing the field is not aware of the 
existence of the electron for the same delay due to light having a finite speed.

I tend to think of these types of processes as being influenced by changes in 
local time due to distance between objects.  In this case the electron is 
responding to the source fields associated with an earlier time of their 
existence from the source frame point of view.  From the electron's point of 
view, it is responding to its real time environment.

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: mixent <mix...@bigpond.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 23, 2013 6:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?


In reply to  David Roberson's message of Sun, 23 Jun 2013 17:37:39 -0400 (EDT):
Hi,

The problem I have with this is that it would allow any energy liberating
mechanism (even chemical reactions) to result in a particle simply "taking off"
with the momentum later to be passed to some other particle somewhere else
(potentially anywhere), after light has had a chance to reach it.

We don't see this happen. 

>Robin,
>
>
>I do not see a problem with what Eric is suggesting.  Regardless of how many 
charges and moving charges reside in the universe, only the net vector fields 
due to all of them is present at the location of the D reactions.  The 
superposition of all of the individual fields results in one final value that 
interacts.  The various vectors of the total could arise far away from the D 
site, but their levels would drop off very fast with distance so only the 
nearest ones would generally dominate.
>
>
>For example, the total magnetic field vector at a point determines how a 
>moving 
charged particle's path is curved at that point.  The potentially far off 
source 
of that field does not have to get information about the movement of that 
particle before the force is felt.  This type of thought fits into the concept 
that local time is what counts for a reference frame.  Distance makes the local 
times different between the "friend" nucleus and the interacting D's.
>
>
>If you follow up on the momentum and energy pulses detected by the "friends" 
nearby, then they would not see any reaction forces until the time required for 
light speed fields to reach them.  After that period has elapsed, they would be 
subject to potentially large dynamic forces.
>
>
>Dave
[snip]
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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