Eric, you seem to be suggesting some form of isomer of He4.  I suppose if that 
is possible, then it would allow the energy a temporary storage location before 
it becomes released.   Is there any evidence that this happens?

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Sat, Jun 22, 2013 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi and DGT Similarity?


On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 4:46 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:



Is it the momentum that is shared with a spectator nucleus or the excess energy 
that wants to cause the He4 to break up?



I think it's considered something different than 4He -- I've heard the 
intermediate product called a "two-deuteron resonance."  In my mind I imagine 
two deuterons spinning rapidly around one another, like a binary star system, 
but much closer, I suppose, so that they appear to be a single thing, but 
highly unstable.


    d+d → [2d]*
    [2d]* → 4He+ɣ (in free space)


So there's really two "decays" here -- first to [2d]* and then to the final 
products. This is just the image in my head; I have no idea what the resonance 
actually looks or behaves like.  I suppose it is like a highly energetic 4He, 
with 24 MeV that it wants to shed as quickly as possible.  It is this that 
decays to 4He+ɣ, p+t or n+3He.  Once a dried out 4He forms, it is a very stable 
entity.  So much so that you can imagine it barreling like a bullet into a 
nearby lattice atom and causing an increase of four nucleons as it is absorbed 
rather than being broken up.
 


We have been seeking a process that is able to extract the relatively large 
energy of the excited helium nucleus in a slower than normal manner.  I suppose 
that I refer to normal as being what is seen in high energy physics as compared 
to LENR.



I think Ron Maimon's model is at variance with the "slow release" family of 
models that have been discussed here.  His involves a quick release of all of 
the energy in the reaction in the form of energetic particles.  But this is 
balanced by the fact that it does not necessarily happen all the time; they 
would need to be discrete occurrences that happen occasionally (like popcorn 
before it really starts popping).




Eric



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