I really do not have any idea about how difficult it would be to prove the 
atomic size issue, but that might actually become the main deciding measurement 
once completed.  Either the size goes up directly with the excitation energy 
level or much faster as the square of that number.  I bet this will be done 
soon if not for some complex issue.

Actually, I read that the excited hydrogen electron has several significantly 
different than spherical shapes according to Wiki and DGT referred to as 
Rydberg orbitals.  It is not evident why they are not spherical, but that is 
what the authors claim.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Driscoll <jef...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 26, 2014 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory



I assume it is either impossible or almost impossible to measure the size of an 
excited hydrogen atom (i.e. n = 2, 3, 4 ...)  - otherwise Mills would use that 
as proof,

Though he shows through math why his size is correct - google "correspondence 
principle Randell Mills"






On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 7:48 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:

That is right Harry.  Nobody cares about how big it can be. :-)

Actually, the integer orbitspheres of Mills include all integer values which is 
like the quantum theory as I understand.  Practical values are limited by how 
easy it is to ionize the big atoms at an integer value that is far less than 
infinity.

This subject is one that surprises me in at least one major way.  Mills 
predicts the atom size as being proportional to the integer directly while 
quantum physics suggests that it varies as the square.  This is a huge 
difference and I can not imagine why the correct rule has not been clearly 
established.  How could an atom be 10 times larger(int =10) in one calculation 
than the next without being obvious?

Perhaps this discrepancy has been shown and I am not aware.  Does anyone know 
of an accurate measurement for an excited hydrogen diameter that supports one 
of these theories?

Dave

 

 

 


-----Original Message-----
From: H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>

Sent: Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory





While people debate how small a hydrogen atom can be, there seems to be no 
debate about how big a hydrogen atom can be. 


Harry  




On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:06 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:

I guess that is what it boils down to Eric.  I would much rather have the 
series continue indefinitely as I have been discussing.  i.e. 
(1/2,1/3,...1/137,1/138...1/infinity)  which would blend nicely with the other 
integer portion that we all assume is real.  If the total series is found to be 
valid, then there is no special consideration needed for the 1/137 term.

But, we must abide by natural laws and most times they do not care what we 
prefer. :(

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Sun, Jan 26, 2014 4:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory



On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:




The theory is a photon like zitterbewegung model describing states that retain 
locality in phase space with circular cycles of a trapped photon representing 
the usual eigenstates.  The Maxwell quanta hbar(c) becomes a classical angular 
momentum quanta in phase space with quantum number 137 attached.




Ah, gotcha.  Thank you.  Hence also the electron "becoming a photon" as it 
approaches the lowest level.


Now we have to decide whether we can live with a series { 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, ..., 
1/136, alpha(N) }.  (Or something like that.)


Eric












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