ie. The twin is not coming home, he got entropified into lots of subatomic
particles, kinda like the transporter room malfunctioning on Star Trek...:)


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:50 AM, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Francis,
>
> Steven Hawking just trashed his own "event horizon" theory, it is all
> about ionization and quantum decay at the "surface" of the vacuum.  More
> like Johnny Cash and a "Ring of Fire"
>
> http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/technology&id=9407566
>
> Stewart
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Roarty, Francis X <
> francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote:
>
>>  Harry,
>>
>> This is why I keep pushing the “suppressed environment” as key to the
>> riddle – it isn’t the spatial acceleration of the electron or atom but
>> rather the region of space time that they are migrating thru – the Casimir
>> geometry forms a gravity warp where virtual particle pairs are excluded –
>> meaning the region is equivalent to being at the top of a gravity well
>> relative to us outside the cavity and therefore it is us outside the well
>> that appear to exist in slow time just as we would see the paradox twin to
>> exist approaching an event horizon.. the same sort of equivalent
>> acceleration is occurring inside the lattice where Casimir geometry forms
>> but it is negative which begs the question where does mass grow larger..
>> since the negatively accelerated atom is equivalent to the stationary
>> observer and we outside the cavity are equivalent to the relativistic twin
>> maybe the mass is added to the quantum geometry of the lattice that is
>> actually causing the suppression?
>>
>> Fran
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* H Veeder [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 27, 2014 2:16 AM
>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory
>>
>>
>>
>> A hydrogen atom H is an atom because the motion of the electron is bound
>> to the proton. If the electron's motion were not bound by the proton, the
>> electron and proton would not form an "atom" since the electron's motion
>> would allow it to escape the "potential well" of the proton.
>>
>> In a classical mechanical system the orbital radius of a bound electron
>> can be arbitrarily large as long as the kinetic energy of the electron can
>> be arbitrarily small. In a quantum mechanical system if an electron has an
>> arbitrarily small kinetic energy then the uncertainty in its position
>> becomes arbitrarily large and that would increase the probability that the
>> electron could escape the potential well of the proton by "tunneling"
>> beyond it. Or is it impossible for a bound electron to free itself?
>>
>>
>>
>> harry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 7:48 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> That is right Harry.  Nobody cares about how big it can be. :-)
>>
>> Actually, the integer orbitspheres of Mills include all integer values
>> which is like the quantum theory as I understand.  Practical values are
>> limited by how easy it is to ionize the big atoms at an integer value that
>> is far less than infinity.
>>
>> This subject is one that surprises me in at least one major way.  Mills
>> predicts the atom size as being proportional to the integer directly while
>> quantum physics suggests that it varies as the square.  This is a huge
>> difference and I can not imagine why the correct rule has not been clearly
>> established.  How could an atom be 10 times larger(int =10) in one
>> calculation than the next without being obvious?
>>
>> Perhaps this discrepancy has been shown and I am not aware.  Does anyone
>> know of an accurate measurement for an excited hydrogen diameter that
>> supports one of these theories?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com>
>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Jan 26, 2014 5:40 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory
>>
>>
>>
>> While people debate how small a hydrogen atom can be, there seems to be
>> no debate about how big a hydrogen atom can be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harry
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:06 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I guess that is what it boils down to Eric.  I would much rather have the
>> series continue indefinitely as I have been discussing.  i.e.
>> (1/2,1/3,...1/137,1/138...1/infinity)  which would blend nicely with the
>> other integer portion that we all assume is real.  If the total series is
>> found to be valid, then there is no special consideration needed for the
>> 1/137 term.
>>
>> But, we must abide by natural laws and most times they do not care what
>> we prefer. :(
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com>
>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Jan 26, 2014 4:12 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mills's theory
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> The theory is a photon like zitterbewegung model describing states that
>> retain locality in phase space with circular cycles of a trapped photon
>> representing the usual eigenstates.  The Maxwell quanta hbar(c) becomes a
>> classical angular momentum quanta in phase space with quantum number 137
>> attached.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ah, gotcha.  Thank you.  Hence also the electron "becoming a photon" as
>> it approaches the lowest level.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now we have to decide whether we can live with a series { 1/2, 1/3, 1/4,
>> ..., 1/136, alpha(N) }.  (Or something like that.)
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
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