From: Eric Walker  

David Roberson  wrote:

Jones makes a good argument that it is unlikely to eliminate all of the gammas 
and I suspect he is correct.

 

The argument, which says that even if you obtain 99.99999 percent efficiency, 
you would still see a large number of gammas for the levels of power observed, 
is a good one, for it narrows down the possibilities significantly.… must we 
then discount years of research stating unequivocally that there has been 4He 
evolution.  If the PdD guys did years of shoddy work, who is there to trust?  

 

Eric,

 

This is not a fair characterization from a technical standpoint. We can trust 
the calorimetry – which is the more important detail by far. 

 

In the early days (early nineties) it was not easy to distinguish D2 from 4He 
except in a handful of Labs with sophisticated equipment and procedure. Both 
gases are essentially the same mass, 4.002602 vs 4.028204 and the small 
difference in helium is masked by the massive disproportion in the expected 
volume of the two following the typical cold fusion experiment, so that helium 
looks to be at the noise level in every deuterium experiment, regardless of 
excess heat, even when none is being made. Note: helium is ubiquitous, and is 
especially problematic in the processing and enrichment of deuterium tanked gas 
by the supplier. Four nines purity from a gas supplier is not good enough. Was 
this tested for every experiment?

 

It is a sophisticated undertaking in 2014 to do this measurement accurately 
from start to finish. Helium is rare but ubiquitous — 5.2 ppm by volume in the 
atmosphere on average, as it is continuously created within the earth from 
alpha decay; but in Labs where liquid or tanked helium is used in an enclosed 
space, which is most Labs, Helium can be found naturally at 50 ppm and up - way 
up! … and variable from day to day and even hour to hour. No one can afford to 
do hourly recalibration. In the experiment being analyzed, the expected ratio 
of helium to “pure” D, assuming it really is pure from the supplier, can 
actually be less than the Lab ratio ! How do you calibrate away this intrinsic 
error and be comfortable with the results? 

 

A quadrupole mass spectrometer (QMS) is the standard apparatus for gas 
analysis, however, conventional 4He analysis is not accurate with the normal 
apparatus, since deuterium would normally be included in an overwhelming 
disproportion in the sample gas - and enrichment is not possible at a low gas 
inventory from sampling the electrodes; and again, this is especially true when 
liquid helium or tanked helium is used in the Lab in question. Is there any 
large Lab on earth that does not have a high natural helium concentration?

 

In short, a large peak of D2 masks a tiny peak of 4He unless the two are in 
fairly similar proportions - and there are few ways to change this when the 
experiment only produces a few million helium atoms (from fusion) which is 
mixed with a million times more deuterium as the starting gas, which gas itself 
already has helium contaminants at a rate that is not very different from the 
production concentration. 

 

Personally I have no problem with this issue of  a “persistent false positive” 
for helium, ongoing for twenty years, so long as the calorimetry is accurate, 
which I am convinced - is accurate. 

 

QM tells us there will be some percentage of helium produced, no matter what, 
and it is the relative proportion which is difficult to assess.

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