Ed's theory requires peer review. The soliton theory of LENR is
incompatible with Ed's theory as it stands now but with a little adjustment
Ed could be promulgating the correct LENR doctrinaire. Ed is a prominent
voice in the LENR community, if Ed can be converted to the truth, then
others may follow.


On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> And you seem to have some strange chip on your shoulder regarding Ed
> Storms and his theory. If a plasmoid EVO is producing excess heat and
> transmutation, all fusion theories are wrong, not just Ed's. I don't
> understand your rant in the slightest.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone who references a plasmoid structure cannot take the theory of Ed
>> Storms seriously.
>>
>> A plasmoid projects the causation of the reaction at a distant from the
>> plasmoid. That negates the premise of Ed's  theory because Ed's theory is
>> one where the action of causation is directed inward within the crack.
>>
>> Remote LENR reactions are seen all the time in LENR experimentation. Any
>> such experiment will disprove Eds theory.
>>
>> The plasmoid will project as anapole magnetic field axially in a
>> direction normal to its direction of current rotation.
>>
>> Action at a distance is a key that indicates the reaction causation in
>> projected magnetism. This is a simple concept not a extremely outlandish
>> and completely unsubstantiated ideas, It has been seen in many experiments
>> that I can reference *ad nauseam.*
>>
>> http://www.uf.narod.ru/public/recom_e11.pdf
>>
>> * LOW-ENERGY NUCLEAR REACTIONS AND THE LEPTONIC MONOPOLE *
>> Snip
>>
>> Doctor Ivoilov will present in his report some very interesting results
>> for the
>>
>> traces.8 Here are some conclusions based on the presented experimental
>> data.
>>
>> (1) The particle, which left the trace in the nuclear emulsion is
>> charged, as
>>
>> nuclear emulsions are insensitive to neutrons.
>>
>> (2) The particle cannot have electric charge, as otherwise it could not
>> be able to
>>
>> pass through *two meters of atmospheric air and two layers of black
>> paper.*
>>
>> (3) The particle does not have high energy, as no delta electrons are
>> observed.
>>
>> (4) The mechanism of the interaction between the particle and the
>> photosensitive
>>
>> layer is not clear. Assuming the Coulomb mechanism, the absorbed
>>
>> energy estimated using the darkening area equals around 1 GeV.
>>
>> (5) The radiation is of nuclear origin; it interacts with magnetic fields.
>>  .
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  *it is in these domains of the nano-material that these coherent
>>>> structures can become stable *
>>>>
>>>>  There are only a few particles that stay together for an extended
>>>> period of time, only the proton really. The neutron will stay around within
>>>> the context of the proton, but will decay when isolated on its own.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Solitons can stay stable in the context of the BEC for as long as the
>>>> BEC endures but will decay when isolated on its own.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The application of energy to air will catalyze a polariton soliton, but
>>>> that vortex will rapidly decay. A high energy electron produced by beta
>>>> decay might produce a polariton soliton, when the emitted electron releases
>>>> its energy in a collision with a nitrogen molecule. But that soliton does
>>>> not stay around very long, it decays in Picoseconds. The same is true for
>>>> spark discharge in air. However, if the spark vaporizes material, say an
>>>> aluminum sheet, a cooling plasma of aluminum will supply nano and micro
>>>> particles together with the electrons and the photons in the spark
>>>> discharge within a contextual medium to catalyze a polariton soliton BEC.
>>>> The energy of the discharge is great enough to form a BEC. With the support
>>>> of this polariton BEC, this soliton ensemble persists and is localized for
>>>> long enough to transmute the surrounding material through the projection of
>>>> a coherent anapole magnetic field (a monopole field).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken Shoulders saw this whole process unfold in this research, but he
>>>> never added the polariton and the associated BEC context to his
>>>> experimental explanations.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> picking up and displacing very "fine grained" material and
>>>>> re-depositing it elsewhere
>>>>>
>>>>> With all respect, this is some conceptual junk that you pick up along
>>>>> the way as an inappropriate analogy.
>>>>>
>>>>> The key is that the magnetic field has an effect on the vacuum which
>>>>> results in a complicated set of results. Spin flipping (the Higgs
>>>>> mechanism) cannot be described in any context with the sedimentation of
>>>>> material.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not so sure one needs to posit Higgs Field interactions -- maybe.
>>>>>> I see it in a very basic way without too much esoterica. In over-unity
>>>>>> electrical systems (possibly cold fusion) we initiate non-linear coupling
>>>>>> between appropriate materials. This non-linear coupling produces these
>>>>>> collective anharmonic modes. Moray B. King calls them "ion acoustical
>>>>>> modes", T. Henry Moray was one of the first to propose this mechanism was
>>>>>> at play in his plasma tubes. Harold Aspden eventually arrived at the same
>>>>>> conclusion while attempting to explain the Correa PAGD -- which both he 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Mallove believed was legitimate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So once the non-linear mode is setup, if all the conditions for
>>>>>> material requirements and proper integration are met, the system will set
>>>>>> up these nano-vortices -- usually magnetic -- which, like any other 
>>>>>> vortex,
>>>>>> is quite good at picking up and displacing very "fine grained" material 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> re-depositing it elsewhere -- in this case from the "Aether" into
>>>>>> our 3D-space (Higgs field, ZPF, or whatever) (think of a longitudinal 
>>>>>> wave
>>>>>> in a riverbed). We know ball-lightning solitons result from
>>>>>> fracto-emissions -- perhaps it is in these domains of the nano-material
>>>>>> that these coherent structures can become stable and setup resonance with
>>>>>> the vacuum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All speculation of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another area that Ahern needs to look into is the way the Higgs
>>>>>>> field seems to connect  together magnetism and  quantum
>>>>>>> chromodynamics (QCD), which is the theory of quark-gluon
>>>>>>> interactions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When Ahern is postulating that nanomagnitism is effecting the
>>>>>>> vacuum, he may mean to address how the Higgs field and nanomagnitism
>>>>>>> interact,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Most scientists are constrained in their focus by their
>>>>>>>> specialization to a limited field of study. To understand a system 
>>>>>>>> fully,
>>>>>>>> many fields of study must be considered to put all the pieces together.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One obvious area of inquiry that Ahern never pursued is to
>>>>>>>> understand how magnetism affects the vacuum and/or nuclear stability.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another important piece of the puzzle that Ahern neglects in the
>>>>>>>> critical role of quantum mechanics plays as a powerful amplification
>>>>>>>> mechanism toward powering up Nanomagnetism to huge levels. When the
>>>>>>>> dimensions of the lattice get below 100 nm, quantum effects 
>>>>>>>> predominate. To
>>>>>>>> understand Nanomagnetism, quantum mechanics is the sole factor that 
>>>>>>>> reveals
>>>>>>>> all the facts in the story of the nano system
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Furthermore, Ahern never mentions the pivotal role the spin plays
>>>>>>>> in Nanomagnetism, including what defeats Nanomagnetism and what 
>>>>>>>> supports it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah he's pretty dismissive of the Heat/Helium work, which I
>>>>>>>>> disagree with for PdD at least, and we're still waiting on reliable 
>>>>>>>>> ash
>>>>>>>>> measurements from NiH, but he's of course entitled to his opinion and 
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> still have a lot of respect for his views. I think, like he said, his
>>>>>>>>> theory applies better to mysterious electromagnetic "free energy" 
>>>>>>>>> systems
>>>>>>>>> than it does to LENR, but he thinks the same phenomenon is at play in 
>>>>>>>>> both.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think non-linear anharmonic modes may indeed be at play here. As
>>>>>>>>> I think I mentioned in the interview, on a personal level, I like the
>>>>>>>>> analogy of loaded hydride in a wet or gaseous system as a 
>>>>>>>>> non-equilibrium,
>>>>>>>>> non-linear, open system of sorts -- so I think energy concentration 
>>>>>>>>> (in
>>>>>>>>> "violation" of the second law) may indeed be at play. But on the flip 
>>>>>>>>> side
>>>>>>>>> I can't totally dismiss Storms' point of view that doesn't think any 
>>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>>> of abnormal energy concentration is necessary -- that linear
>>>>>>>>> reaction-diffusion can get H/D to the NAE efficiently enough without
>>>>>>>>> needing to invoke non-linear dynamics. It's hard to say.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping the ash analysis being carried out by ELFORSK can shed
>>>>>>>>> some light on what's going on (i.e. fusion or not fusion). I'm 
>>>>>>>>> banking on
>>>>>>>>> that, because I don't really have a lot of faith DGT will be 
>>>>>>>>> releasing a
>>>>>>>>> wealth of mass spectrometer work anytime soon, even though they 
>>>>>>>>> promised to
>>>>>>>>> at last years ICCF.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  This is an excellent interview. Have not finished yet, but
>>>>>>>>>> there are a few things to add. Ahern is strongly impressed with a 
>>>>>>>>>> magnetic
>>>>>>>>>> invention (Manelas device) since he did the 8 day test - and which 
>>>>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>>>>> others have belittled. It is similar to the Floyd Sweet device (for 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> historians of overunity). The cross-connection to LENR is not easy to
>>>>>>>>>> explain but is there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It can be noted up front that Ahern does not believe that there
>>>>>>>>>> is any evidence whatsoever for nuclear fusion in LENR. That includes
>>>>>>>>>> deuterium fusion to helium and especially Ni-H. He thinks it is all
>>>>>>>>>> nanomagnetic. Nanomagnetism is roughly equivalent to a combination of
>>>>>>>>>> superferromagnetism and superparamagnetism. They are two are 
>>>>>>>>>> extremes of
>>>>>>>>>> the same phenomenon.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He believes that the helium seen in Pd-D is basically measurement
>>>>>>>>>> error - noise. Krivit is probably pleased with that assessment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Alan Fletcher
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Foks0904 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  I'm sure many of you know of Brian Ahern from his EPRI report,
>>>>>>>>>> his MIT colloquium appearance earlier this year, and now his 
>>>>>>>>>> collaboration
>>>>>>>>>> with MFMP. Even if you're not aware of him, I think this 
>>>>>>>>>> conversation has
>>>>>>>>>> enough for 3-4 threads worth of topics. We even flirt with the
>>>>>>>>>> ever-so-dangerous & taboo possibility of "perpetual motion". Titled:
>>>>>>>>>> "Nanomagnetism, Cooperative Modes, & Non-Linear LENR". Hope you 
>>>>>>>>>> guys/gals
>>>>>>>>>> enjoy:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_kID_E-3tY
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> An outline can be found here:
>>>>>>>>>> http://jmag0904.wordpress.com/2014/07/25/dr-brian-ahern-nanomagnetism-cooperative-modes-non-linear-lenr/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's a MUST-LISTEN link.  (And I'm only half-way through!)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Goes into some of the history of anharmonic modes (related to
>>>>>>>>>> discrete breathers, Quodons we've discussed recently).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At about 19minutes he says superconductivity and
>>>>>>>>>> (super?)-ferro-magnetism are closely related (and that the latter 
>>>>>>>>>> persists
>>>>>>>>>> up to a thousand degrees.).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then I *think* he says that LENR could be a localized
>>>>>>>>>> ferromagnetic effect tapping into vacuum energy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Needs a transcript.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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