If  you place your bet on  Miills, you  put it on someone with an
incredibly lousy history.  Period.


On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Jojo Iznart <jojoiznar...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  In video 1, Randy shows a bomb calorimeter measurement of an explosion.
> It was clear from the reading of the temperature rise that the output of
> that single explosion was 623J (I think, don't remember exactly).  So, it
> appears incontrovertible that the output is around 700J as Mills claims.
>
> Well, the input is 5v x 10,000A or 5J for the short duration.
>
> Why is there a question that the explosion can achieve a high COP.  In
> this case, it appears to be >100.
>
> I am not sure where the controversy is.  COP appears to be clearly
> overunity.
>
> Jojo
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com>
> *To:* vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 5:59 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?
>
>  Jones:
>
> I get the impression that Mills has been sitting on his hind quarters for
> at least a decade.  He's brilliant.  He knows how to attract investors to
> pie-in-the-sky projects that in the end, do not pan out.  Now he's seeing
> Rossi with his demos, promises, $20M engagement with Industrial Heat,
> INDEPENDENT third party submission... Mills is in scramble mode.  He got
> beat by Rossi and he either goes after all  his supposedly superior prior
> solutions or he gets ready for the patent war that is to come.  Mills will
> be a patent warrior and nothing more.  None of his fun experiments will
> come to fruition in the industrial/commercial nor consumer market.
>
> You have stated that if anyone finds nuclear ash in Mills's experiments,
> it's a death blow to his theory.  With the money that will soon be
> attracted to this sector of industry, I predict that multiple death blows
> will be dealt to his theory.  Maybe half of such death blows will have real
> data rather than contrived data, but it will be enough to relegate Mills to
> the fringes of History.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Steven reported that massive amounts of info from the BLP demo is now
>> online. I wish it was better organized.
>>
>> The most hyped up doc is here :
>>
>> http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/presentations/072114Demons
>> tration-Abbreviated.pdf
>>
>> I have not found time to wade through all of this yet, at least not with
>> any
>> confidence, but here are first impressions of what seems to be going on.
>> These could be inaccurate.
>>
>> 1)      There is good evidence of Pout exceeding Pin by a significant
>> margin
>> 2)      COP of 5 has been mentioned as the net gain from photocell
>> conversion
>> 3)      COP of 100-200 is claimed as the reaction gain, less catalyst
>> rejuvenation and loses
>> 4)      Titanium seems to be the preferred catalyst (but knowing Mills he
>> has a better one under wraps)
>> 5)      He says but does not prove that the catalyst can be rejuvenated in
>> line with the reaction. This is the key. Anyone can burn Ti for gain, it
>> is
>> a great fuel.
>> 6)      In short, everything hinges on rejuvenation of the catalyst, which
>> is still under wraps, or else I missed it.
>> 7)      Even if the gain is substantial, this is basically oxidation
>> (combustion) of a catalyst, but with gain over and above the chemical
>> gain.
>> Even a gain of 200:1 does not insure commercialization! (except for
>> Military
>> uses) To be explained.
>> 8)      Ferro-titanium is not expensive, but nano-titanium powder is. The
>> difference is 5000:1 since ingots go for $5 pound but pure powder costs
>> much
>> more.
>> 9)      Titanium is expensive to rejuvenate (reduce), but there is
>> probably
>> a secret catalyst which is easier and which is a trade secret. There is no
>> doubt it is oxidized in the
>> 10)     Bottom line - this technology could be great - or a bust for the
>> general public, depending on the cost of catalyst rejuvenation. I am not
>> impressed with the level of openness here.
>> 11)     If the best catalyst is nano-titanium, then this stage show is
>> basically a delusion for the alternative energy crowd - economically .
>>
>> This turned up on one of the forums. Past public claims by Mills/BLP:
>>
>> 1999: Will commercialize a hydrino power generator within a year. 1000 W,
>> within 4 months.
>>
>> 2005: Only months away from commercialization.
>>
>> 2008: 50000 W, within 12 to 18 months.
>>
>> 2009: Commercialization within 1 year to 18 months.
>>
>> 2012: 100 W by the end of 2012, 1500 W 2013
>>
>> 2014: 100000 W in 16 to 18 weeks.
>>
>> If history is an indicator, this was little more than a horse-and-pony
>> show
>> put on to raise capital but done so that investors would not notice how
>> contrived the whole thing is.
>>
>> However, there could be significant military aerospace uses which will
>> carry
>> the project. This is not an answer to the energy crisis as it stands now.
>> The most interest should come from NASA and the Pentagon. I could see this
>> as a fabulous solid fuel rocket engine.
>>
>> I hope all of those investors can stand a loss, because this technology is
>> most likely not ready for prime time in the commercial arena, and there
>> could be allegations of actual fraud this time around, if Mills does not
>> have a commercial device in 2015. If his ace-in-the-hole is the Pentagon,
>> then he will dodge a bullet by that tactic.
>>
>> IMO - there is no chance of a commercial device in 2015 for the general
>> public or for Grid usage, if nano-titanium is required. This is not what
>> we
>> have been looking for as an affordable alternative to fossil fuel.
>>
>> Yet in the end - power could cost 10 times more than fossil fuel - and yet
>> it would be great for weaponry. Admitting that from the start, however,
>> does
>> not bring enough investors to the table.
>>
>>
>>
>

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