Okay, then that introduces an interesting concept that I have not seen in
the literature.  I keep seeing it postulated here on Vortex that there's a
relativity-based theory that explains it.  I do not understand the theory
so I haven't spent the cycles to click through and figure it out.

But here we have the possibility of a "relative" Luttinger Liquid.  I was
thinking that the 1 dimensional Luttinger Liquid pushes into a 1D BEC at
certain ABSOLUTE temperatures.  But what if Luttinger Liquids form at
RELATIVE temperatures?  Here in this case, it would be when a spark rapidly
declines from 20,000C down to 10,000C.  Even though the ABSolute
temperature is momentarily high, the field of matter has been exposed to a
RELative rapid temperature decrease.   This adds a further complication to
the formation of Luttinger Liquids and BECs.

I have no idea how to pursue if anyone has investigated this.


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Cools is a relative term. The temperature of a spark can reach about
> 20,000C.  For example, Palladium vaporizes above 3000C so nanoparticle of
> palladium will start to form just under that very high  temperature. Water
> will always produce nanoparticles when exposed to a spark.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A spark produces a plasma, whenever a plasma cools as it must eventually
>>> do, at a minimum, it produces nanoparticles out of the vaporized electrode
>>> material that carried the spark..
>>>
>> ***When a plasma COOLs????  That is utterly significant.  It is only
>> under "relatively cool" conditions that a BEC forms.  So when the plasma
>> cools, it forms a (linear) BEC, atoms come together and fuse sometimes and
>> when they do, by the nature of BECs, their output energy is dissipated by
>> 1/N the number of atoms involved in the BEC.
>>
>> On top of that, the spark environment becomes a (linear) accelerator,
>> pushing particles such as protons straight into the opposing walls of the
>> crack of the metal matrix, thereby generating transmutations, fission,
>> nuclear heat from other products.  Perhaps it's even an asymmetrical thrust
>> capacitor, as described upthread.  Think about it: A v-shaped "crack" is
>> very similar to a capacitor in certain dimensions, and at the extremes of
>> those dimensions you'd see very different behavior.
>>
>> Ed Storms wanted to move the discussion out from the interior of metal
>> hydrydes into the surface "where the laws of conservation of energy no
>> longer apply".  But cracks are a weak representation of "laws of Physics"
>> no longer applying:  The sparks ACROSS such cracks would be a perfect
>> candidate for "weird physics" and "laws of conservation of energy" no
>> longer applying, because plasma physics is incredibly weird to begin with.
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LochakGlowenergyn.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is what cavitation is producing.   These are what Ken Shoulders
>>>>> also produced in spark discharge. Sparks in water always produce
>>>>> cavitation. Only cavitation in water produces gamma because no BEC can
>>>>> be produced.
>>>>>
>>>> ***This strikes me as incredibly important because we've narrowed down
>>>> the focus of discussion to sparks, BECs, gamma ray production and LENR.
>>>> HOW is it that sparks in water always produce cavitation?  Can a linear BEC
>>>> form in gas simpler than in water?  Isn't it possible for a spark to form a
>>>> Luttinger Liquid linear BEC?  And consider the endpoints of such a
>>>> phenomenon:  at each end would be a few microns of solid Ni or Pd
>>>> encapsulating a linear formation of H or D atoms!  The reason it's so hard
>>>> to get our heads around it is that there are 2 kinds of phenomena
>>>> connecting to each other:  A 1dimensional Luttinger Liquid of atoms
>>>> embedded within a matrix connected to a BEC forming inside of a spark
>>>> across (Ed Storms's utterly important) crack or even just a "sphericule".
>>>> The TRANSITION between these 2 uncommon physical forms is completely beyond
>>>> our grasp to describe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Sparks in a gas do not produce gamma because the spark produces
>>>>> nanoparticle aggregations  in which a BEC is carried.
>>>>>
>>>> ***Okay... where do these nanoparticle aggregations come from?  I've
>>>> never heard of them before.  What are they?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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