Okay, then that introduces an interesting concept that I have not seen in the literature. I keep seeing it postulated here on Vortex that there's a relativity-based theory that explains it. I do not understand the theory so I haven't spent the cycles to click through and figure it out.
But here we have the possibility of a "relative" Luttinger Liquid. I was thinking that the 1 dimensional Luttinger Liquid pushes into a 1D BEC at certain ABSOLUTE temperatures. But what if Luttinger Liquids form at RELATIVE temperatures? Here in this case, it would be when a spark rapidly declines from 20,000C down to 10,000C. Even though the ABSolute temperature is momentarily high, the field of matter has been exposed to a RELative rapid temperature decrease. This adds a further complication to the formation of Luttinger Liquids and BECs. I have no idea how to pursue if anyone has investigated this. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > Cools is a relative term. The temperature of a spark can reach about > 20,000C. For example, Palladium vaporizes above 3000C so nanoparticle of > palladium will start to form just under that very high temperature. Water > will always produce nanoparticles when exposed to a spark. > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> A spark produces a plasma, whenever a plasma cools as it must eventually >>> do, at a minimum, it produces nanoparticles out of the vaporized electrode >>> material that carried the spark.. >>> >> ***When a plasma COOLs???? That is utterly significant. It is only >> under "relatively cool" conditions that a BEC forms. So when the plasma >> cools, it forms a (linear) BEC, atoms come together and fuse sometimes and >> when they do, by the nature of BECs, their output energy is dissipated by >> 1/N the number of atoms involved in the BEC. >> >> On top of that, the spark environment becomes a (linear) accelerator, >> pushing particles such as protons straight into the opposing walls of the >> crack of the metal matrix, thereby generating transmutations, fission, >> nuclear heat from other products. Perhaps it's even an asymmetrical thrust >> capacitor, as described upthread. Think about it: A v-shaped "crack" is >> very similar to a capacitor in certain dimensions, and at the extremes of >> those dimensions you'd see very different behavior. >> >> Ed Storms wanted to move the discussion out from the interior of metal >> hydrydes into the surface "where the laws of conservation of energy no >> longer apply". But cracks are a weak representation of "laws of Physics" >> no longer applying: The sparks ACROSS such cracks would be a perfect >> candidate for "weird physics" and "laws of conservation of energy" no >> longer applying, because plasma physics is incredibly weird to begin with. >> >> >>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LochakGlowenergyn.pdf >>>>> >>>>> Here is what cavitation is producing. These are what Ken Shoulders >>>>> also produced in spark discharge. Sparks in water always produce >>>>> cavitation. Only cavitation in water produces gamma because no BEC can >>>>> be produced. >>>>> >>>> ***This strikes me as incredibly important because we've narrowed down >>>> the focus of discussion to sparks, BECs, gamma ray production and LENR. >>>> HOW is it that sparks in water always produce cavitation? Can a linear BEC >>>> form in gas simpler than in water? Isn't it possible for a spark to form a >>>> Luttinger Liquid linear BEC? And consider the endpoints of such a >>>> phenomenon: at each end would be a few microns of solid Ni or Pd >>>> encapsulating a linear formation of H or D atoms! The reason it's so hard >>>> to get our heads around it is that there are 2 kinds of phenomena >>>> connecting to each other: A 1dimensional Luttinger Liquid of atoms >>>> embedded within a matrix connected to a BEC forming inside of a spark >>>> across (Ed Storms's utterly important) crack or even just a "sphericule". >>>> The TRANSITION between these 2 uncommon physical forms is completely beyond >>>> our grasp to describe. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sparks in a gas do not produce gamma because the spark produces >>>>> nanoparticle aggregations in which a BEC is carried. >>>>> >>>> ***Okay... where do these nanoparticle aggregations come from? I've >>>> never heard of them before. What are they? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >