Dear Jojo,

I want to answer you in part, prior to Axil.
We have to take great care with naming ideas willy nilly,,nanoplasmonics,
nanomagnetism, BEC are not so have a growing literature - see Google
Scholar please and do a lighting fast search.
What sacrosnct rules they contradict how when this has to be shown for any
case in detail. Thermodynamics is first candidate and it is much invoked-
great care!
I think that the field is in such a deep trouble- not understood, desired
process not controlled, no possibilities of intensification and scale-up
visible- that really new ideas, principles, theories are needed. The old
ones
have no connection to the experimental reality- Ed Storms is right in not
liking theories; he still has to demonstrate that his new theory has
problem solving power.

I would advise to welcome ideas that are new here- but have domains of
validity outside LENR. You also can come with new ideas, the old ones have
not been productive at all, right?.

Peter





On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Jojo Iznart <jojoiznar...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Axil, I feel it is counterproductive to the advancement of science for
> people to be proposing ideas willy nilly - ideas that have no bearing in
> reality and cleary violates known physical principles.  Attempts at theory
> of these kinds are not helpful and adds a significant amount of noise that
> needs to be sifted thru and vetted.  I think this is what Ed storms is
> lamenting from ideas coming in this forum.
>
> Take your ideas of exotic substances  (BEC soltions) shielding
> nanostructures from melting in high temps.  Such "metaphasic shielding"
> ideas are counterproductive.  Instead of cleary admitting that your ideas
> has a big hole - a clear violation of a known physical property; you
> propose this even more preposterous idea of metaphasic shielding for high
> temps to try to explain another created miracle.   Each miracle requires a
> dozen more miracles to explain it. This is getting ridiculous.
>
> Tell me my friend; would you be so bold in proposing such ludricous ideas
> if people knew who you really are?  Being anonymous affords you the
> opportunity to be as outrageous and senseless as you like without
> consequence.  I am trying to say this without any attempt at a personal
> attack, but people has got to admit - this is part of the problem, and IMO,
>  part of why Ed left this forum.
>
>
> Jojo
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
> *To:* vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2014 3:44 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:The 5 states of matter
>
>  *The whole discussion about different theories is way too adament in my
> opinion. It seems like if evry theory is having problems to be accepted by
> a wide group of scientists.*
>
> Whenever there is a mystery in science, many theories are proposed to
> explain that mystery. Take for an example dark matter, there are hundreds
> of theories that have been put forth to explain that mystery. There is even
> a dozen categories in which these theories can be grouped.
>
> The debate that weighs each new piece of evidence against all those
> theories is very healthy. Over time, and with many iterations, one of the
> many will pull away in the theory sweepstakes.
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

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