I don't know how to measure the input power. We're talking 2-5V and 3000-4000 amps. I'd be scared to hook my oscilloscope up to it. You could maybe do it on the supply side from the 110AC with a watt meter, but that would be the power going in to the transformer.
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Jojo Iznart <jojoiznar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dave, > > A very thin film of water on a piece of wire should not change the > impedance that much. Certainly not explain the clearly more intense light > output. There appears to be something going on here. > > Jack, it might help if you measured the temperature and humidity as you > are performing the tests. > > The output power can be measured with a small solar panel. > > That leaves the input power. Any ideas on how to measure input power? > Other than a watthour meter, I'm out. Although I doubt a common watthour > meter would be sensitive enough. Another option is an oscilloscope on the > electrodes. > > > > > > Jojo > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 27, 2014 12:01 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt > > Interesting results Jack. Could it be that with copper only the > conductivity of the path is so low that the voltage is nearly shorted out > at the pellet? This excellent short might prevent the voltage from rising > enough thereby keeping the power and energy into the pellet at a low value. > > A water film by contrast has much more impedance than copper and that will > result in a voltage increase and hence more energy being delivered. What > I am describing is related to the concept of matching the source impedance > to get the maximum power from the source. In that case an open or short > will have zero power delivered. You may have a near zero condition with > copper only and a much better power match with the water film. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 6:39 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt > > It was with a tiny piece of copper wire that I dipped in water and put > between the electrodes. The amount of water is minuscule (the amount that > managed to adhere to the metal). You don't get that without the water. > > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 5:13 AM, Jojo Iznart <jojoiznar...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> was that the spark with or without fuel (water pellets)? >> >> >> Jojo >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com> >> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:15 AM >> *Subject:* [Vo]:SunCell - Initial Replication Attempt >> >> Hi Folks, >> I was excited to receive my spot welder today. After ensuring it was in >> working order, I decided to get right to it and see if I could get anything >> like what BLP showed. Lo and behold I got something on the first try. >> I remembered Mills talking about all the different possibilities for >> types of conductors that they might use in the commercial device, and >> copper was one of them. I cut a very small piece of copper wire, dipped it >> in water, placed it on the electrodes, hit the switch, and pop with some >> bright light! >> Here's a link to the vid. Sorry for the bad camera work. >> Let me know what you think. I'll do another vid soon in complete >> darkness. >> http://youtu.be/d6XYqEhwZgA >> Jack >> >> >
