Thanks Ronni Maybe I need to set up a GMUG face to face meeting and we can all (three or four of us resident Geraldtonians) do this together!
Reg On 25/06/2013, at 8:00 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: > Hi Reg, > >> I suspect it happened when I first used Migration Assistant and it told me I >> couldn't have the same user name as one that already existed. I changed the >> name and continued. Would that have affected permissions etc? > > > Yes. it sounds like you had already setup the User Account with the same name > on the MacBook Pro and then used Migration Assistant to transfer a same named > User Account. > > I've found it is always best to do the migration at the First Startup using > Setup Assistant. Otherwise you can run into User Account Permission problems > and other issues. > > Cheers, > Ronni > Sent from Ronni's iPad4 > > On 25/06/2013, at 6:17 PM, Reg Whitely <rwhit...@internode.on.net> wrote: > >> Thanks Daniel, that's a lot of help. Sounds like some homework coming up. >> >> I suspect it happened when I first used Migration Assistant and it told me I >> couldn't have the same user name as one that already existed. I changed the >> name and continued. Would that have affected permissions etc? >> I've used Disk Utility and it repairs permissions but this silly problem >> still exists. Either that or something came into the system folder from the >> old MacBook Pro which this Mountain Lion couldn't quite digest! >> >> Reg >> >> On 25/06/2013, at 5:58 pm, Daniel Kerr <dan...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote: >> >>> No point. Solid State Drives (SSD's) don't work the same as "normal drives" >>> so you won't gain any benefit from it, and in some cases can make it worse. >>> >>> So I wouldn't recommend Diskwarrior for that type of machine, or ones with >>> SSD's at all. >>> >>> If you're having "strange issues" then I'd try backing everything up then >>> do a full erase. Once done reinstall the OS and the migrate your files >>> back. >>> If you've tried re-installing just the last combo update over the top of it >>> and issues persist then a clean fresh install with migration back should >>> fix it. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Daniel >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 5 >>> >>> --- >>> Daniel Kerr >>> MacWizardry >>> >>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>> Email: <danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau> >>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>> >>> >>> **For everything Apple** >>> >>> On 25/06/2013, at 5:33 PM, Reg Whitely <rwhit...@internode.on.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi WAMUGgers >>>> >>>> I've been following this for a while and thank Ronni for her tenacity in >>>> helping us all. I'm tempted to try Disk Warrior on my new MacBook Pro >>>> Early 2013 15" Retina which displays curious behaviour at times (ie ML >>>> Software updates always end up with Install failed messages even though >>>> they have installed apparently successfully - currently 10.8.4). >>>> >>>> However looking at the Disk Warrior website and tech info it is apparent >>>> that: >>>> >>>> "The current DiskWarrior DVD cannot start up the new MacBook Pros >>>> introduced June 11, 2012. An updated disc that will also start up these >>>> recent Mac models will be released as soon as Apple, Inc. releases new >>>> startup files to Alsoft, Inc. and other developers." >>>> >>>> Any advice here before I fork out my $99US? I guess I could install this >>>> on our iMac and do the repairs in Target Disk mode, but I'd rather have >>>> the most appropriate software in the first instance. >>>> >>>> I've sent a tech query to Alsoft and await their response also. >>>> >>>> Regards and thanks >>>> >>>> Reg >>>> >>>> On 25/06/2013, at 7:36 am, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This reply that I sent to WAMUG Mailing list on Friday 21 June 2013 is >>>>> not showing in the Mailing List Archives. >>>>> So I'm not sure if it came through to the List. I've forwarded the reply >>>>> again just in case. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>>> From: Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> >>>>>> Subject: Re: MacBook issues >>>>>> Date: 21 June 2013 7:59:59 AM AWST >>>>>> To: wamug@wamug.org.au >>>>>> Reply-To: wamug@wamug.org.au >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Stuart, >>>>>> >>>>>> You need to fix the corruption first if possible. Use DiskWarrior to >>>>>> Rebuild and Replace the Directory if it can. >>>>>> >>>>>> How to use DiskWarrior: >>>>>> >>>>>> The DiskWarrior DVD is bootable. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Insert the DiskWarrior DVD & Start your Mac, Hold down the “C” key >>>>>> to start from the DiskWarrior CD. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. When the computer has completed starting up from the DiskWarrior >>>>>> CD, the DiskWarrior application will open automatically. >>>>>> >>>>>> You will then be presented with the DiskWarrior main window from which >>>>>> you can rebuild disk directories. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. Select Macintosh HD from the drop-down menu >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. The lower portion of the main window will indicate whether the >>>>>> directory is ready to be rebuilt. >>>>>> >>>>>> If for some reason DiskWarrior cannot rebuild the disk’s directory, it >>>>>> will indicate the reasons the directory cannot be rebuilt. >>>>>> >>>>>> 5. Click the Rebuild button. >>>>>> >>>>>> DiskWarrior will begin building the replacement directory on the disk to >>>>>> be rebuilt. It will first analyse the disk. This analysis can take >>>>>> anywhere from several seconds to several minutes or longer, depending on >>>>>> the number of files on the disk. When DiskWarrior is finished, it will >>>>>> display a dialog informing you of the results of the rebuild. >>>>>> >>>>>> 6. Click “Replace” to use the replacement directory >>>>>> >>>>>> If you click “Replace,” DiskWarrior will install the replacement >>>>>> directory on your disk. This will result in your disk being “replaced” >>>>>> by the Preview disk described above. >>>>>> >>>>>> 7. DiskWarrior will install the rebuilt directory and keep you updated >>>>>> with its progress. >>>>>> >>>>>> DiskWarrior uses a fail-safe method of replacing the directory whenever >>>>>> possible, which will be most cases. To use the fail-safe method, there >>>>>> merely needs to be enough free space on the disk to write the new >>>>>> directory. There is redundancy designed into the fail-safe method, >>>>>> assuring there is never any risk of ending up with an unusable disk if >>>>>> the process is interrupted. You can go back to step 4 for any disk for >>>>>> which the process was interrupted. >>>>>> >>>>>> 8. Quit DiskWarrior by selecting "Quit DiskWarrior" from the DiskWarrior >>>>>> menu. >>>>>> Your computer will now restart. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ronni >>>>>> >>>>>> On 20/06/2013, at 8:43 PM, Stuart Breden <bred...@highway1.biz> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Ronni. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll try Disk Worrier again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My daughter does not have a back up of her hard drive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think I know how to reinstall the operating system with loosing her >>>>>>> data. Is it all in your tutorial? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looked on your web site but can't find anything about reinstalling OS >>>>>>> 10.4. What link do I use? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stuart Breden >>>>>>> PO Box 132 >>>>>>> Kalamunda WA 6926 >>>>>>> Ph: (08) 9257 1577 >>>>>>> Mbl: 0417 053 266 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20/06/2013, at 12:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Stuart, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As I mentioned previously this indicates there is corruption/damage, >>>>>>>> whether the system software or hardware (hard drive) we are not sure. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I take it this is a MacBook2,1 Intel Core 2 Duo... not MacBook1,1 >>>>>>>> Intel Core Duo. >>>>>>>> Because you mentioned the MacBook came with OS X 10.4.8 installed and >>>>>>>> then you said you updated it to OS X 10.4.8... Don't you mean you were >>>>>>>> updating it to OS X 10.4.11? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim's advise of reinstalling the OS system may need to be used. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But first: You mentioned you did boot from the DiskWarrior DVD (it >>>>>>>> takes about 10 minutes to boot from the disc) and were able to Repair >>>>>>>> and Replace the Mac's Directory Database? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> After DW finished the repair and replaced the contents of the drive >>>>>>>> with the fixed one, what happened? >>>>>>>> Did you remove the DW disc from the drive and reboot as normal? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 19/06/2013, at 10:53 PM, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stuart, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just an idea - have you tried reloading your original system software >>>>>>>>> by starting up with the disk the computer came with? And once the >>>>>>>>> computer is running fine on the original OS, then upgrading it to the >>>>>>>>> latest. I'm wondering if somehow it's lost it's operating system. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Assuming that there were no problems before the upgrade was done, and >>>>>>>>> Diskwarrior and the AHT did their stuff without throwing up alarming >>>>>>>>> errors on the state of the disk, I'm wondering if starting again from >>>>>>>>> scratch would be a reasonable thing to try - through all the upgrades >>>>>>>>> the system software may have got corrupted somehow. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hopefully you can do all this whilst maintaining the user files. Does >>>>>>>>> she have a recent backup in case you need to erase the disk and start >>>>>>>>> really afresh? >>>>>>>>> It's starting to point to desperate measures me thinks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 19/06/2013, at 8:34 PM, Stuart Breden <bred...@highway1.biz> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You are correct Ronni. Did not do the Safe Boot quite correctly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now followed your instruction to the letter and still the MacBook >>>>>>>>>> will not boot. As previously opens to blank blue screen. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks. Any further advice? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Stuart Breden >>>>>>>>>> PO Box 132 >>>>>>>>>> Kalamunda WA 6926 >>>>>>>>>> Ph: (08) 9257 1577 >>>>>>>>>> Mbl: 0417 053 266 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 18/06/2013, at 9:13 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Stuart, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A Gray, blue or white screen and/or loading bar - means OS X isn't >>>>>>>>>>> loading - usually indicating a corrupt/drive issue. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure you correctly did a Safe Mode startup. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Safe boot mode? >>>>>>>>>>>> When holding down Shift key at startup comes to startup screen >>>>>>>>>>>> with the wheel continuing to spin. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That is when you release the Shift key and let the system load. >>>>>>>>>>> Step 4 below. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It takes longer to startup in Safe Mode than a normal startup. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To start up into Safe Mode (to Safe Boot): >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Be sure your Mac is shut down. >>>>>>>>>>> 2. Press the power button. >>>>>>>>>>> 3. Immediately after you hear the startup tone, hold the Shift key. >>>>>>>>>>> The Shift key should be held as soon as possible after the startup >>>>>>>>>>> tone, but not before the tone. >>>>>>>>>>> 4. Release the Shift key when you see the gray Apple icon and the >>>>>>>>>>> progress indicator (looks like a spinning gear). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> During startup in Mac OS X v10.4 through Mac OS X v10.6.8, you will >>>>>>>>>>> see "Safe Boot" on the login window. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To leave Safe Mode, restart the computer normally, without holding >>>>>>>>>>> any keys during startup. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 18/06/2013, at 8:21 PM, Stuart Breden <bred...@highway1.biz> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> See below. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Breden >>>>>>>>>>>> PO Box 132 >>>>>>>>>>>> Kalamunda WA 6926 >>>>>>>>>>>> Ph: (08) 9257 1577 >>>>>>>>>>>> Mbl: 0417 053 266 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/06/2013, at 8:38 PM, Tim Law wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What have you already tried Stuart? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Safe boot mode? >>>>>>>>>>>> When holding down Shift key at startup comes to startup screen >>>>>>>>>>>> with the wheel continuing to spin. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you let it restart all by itself after the software update, >>>>>>>>>>>>> or did it get turned off before the updates had been completed? >>>>>>>>>>>> Let it restart by itself and it goes through the startup screen >>>>>>>>>>>> and then stays on blue screen. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried restarting from original disks to make sure it's >>>>>>>>>>>>> not a hardware issue. Insert original disk and hold C to force it >>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot from that. >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Repaired Permissions and Repair Dick from Dick Utility on >>>>>>>>>>>> the Disk 1 of the original disks. did the extended hardware test >>>>>>>>>>>> and no problems. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have disk Warrior, and have you run it? >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How did you update? Via the normal online Software Update? >>>>>>>>>>>> v10.4.8 via the normal online Software Update. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What operating system did she have, or have now? >>>>>>>>>>>> On the original disks it was v10.4.8. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you follow the oft repeated expectations of Ronni before and >>>>>>>>>>>>> after any upgrades? >>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e. backup, permissions fix etc etc. She's got a whole tutorial >>>>>>>>>>>>> on her website if I recall. >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes and no. My daughter wanted her MacBook ASAP and did not >>>>>>>>>>>> follow exactly as I was sick. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Or perhaps you are busy managing the relationship with your >>>>>>>>>>>>> daughter - chocolate etc...... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/06/2013, at 7:35 PM, Stuart Breden <bred...@highway1.biz> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> My daughter has a MacBook Intel Core 2 Duo/1.83 Ghz (November >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20060. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I upgraded it over the weekend following the Software Update. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> She has Microsoft Office 2004. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> After I had completed the updates of the system software and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft all I got was a blank blue screen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What now? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Breden >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PO Box 132 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kalamunda WA 6926 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph: (08) 9257 1577 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mbl: 0417 053 266 > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> Reg Whitely Home: 08 9921 7272 Mob: 04 8899 7313 Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net
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