Hi Reg Depending on type of issues, then sometimes it can be fine to migrate everything and see how it goes. Though sometimes if you don't want to do it all a second time I find it's easier just to migrate just the user data and then manually install all the Applications again. It takes longer but you get a cleaner setup. Otherwise you can try and see how it goes. Then if it doesn't work, you do a clean set up again from scratch again. :) But with the Applications you can only migrate all or nothing.
Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> **For everything Apple** On 26/06/2013, at 11:53 AM, Reg Whitely <rwhit...@internode.on.net> wrote: > Thanks Daniel. I'm about to do this. Is it safe to migrate the apps back as > well as data. I know I will need to although I also read it's good practice > to download the latest versions fresh from the web. Unfortunately there are > some I simply can't download and will need to migrate. Will this re-introduce > corrupt data? > > Reg > > On 25/06/2013, at 9:05 pm, Daniel Kerr <dan...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote: > >> Hi Reg >> >> Yes, as Ronni's mentioned it sounds like you'd you set it up then migrated >> after that, as that's normally what happens with the "name conflict". >> >> It's pretty easy to reset it up (well fairly easy). Just run a Time Machine >> backup and perhaps a second bootable clone backup as well (to cover all the >> bases). Once happy everything is backed up restart the machine with Option >> key held down and boot into recovery partition. >> Erase with Disk Utility then choose "reinstall OSX". It will take a while as >> a) it has to download the whole 10.8.4 4GB image again off the Internet then >> install it. So that can take 2-8 hours or more depending on your Internet >> and congestion of servers (download servers). >> It will then install and restart and you have the choice to restore (you can >> then choose to restore from a) your clone or b) Time Machine backup. >> It will then restore all your data etc. >> After that, all should be good. >> >> Easy :)) >> >> Hope that helps. >> Just got home so now about to go eat dinner, Er lunch really after my blah >> day. (Was going well until my car decided to get a flat tyre....in the >> rain....and make me late.....lol. Cars eh!) >> >> Have fun. >> >> Kind regards >> Daniel >> >> Sent from my iPhone 5 >> >> --- >> Daniel Kerr >> MacWizardry >> >> Phone: 0414 795 960 >> Email: <danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau> >> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >> >> >> **For everything Apple** >> >> On 25/06/2013, at 8:00 PM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Reg, >>> >>>> I suspect it happened when I first used Migration Assistant and it told me >>>> I couldn't have the same user name as one that already existed. I changed >>>> the name and continued. Would that have affected permissions etc? >>> >>> Yes. it sounds like you had already setup the User Account with the same >>> name on the MacBook Pro and then used Migration Assistant to transfer a >>> same named User Account. >>> >>> I've found it is always best to do the migration at the First Startup using >>> Setup Assistant. Otherwise you can run into User Account Permission >>> problems and other issues. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>> >>> On 25/06/2013, at 6:17 PM, Reg Whitely <rwhit...@internode.on.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Daniel, that's a lot of help. Sounds like some homework coming up. >>>> >>>> I suspect it happened when I first used Migration Assistant and it told me >>>> I couldn't have the same user name as one that already existed. I changed >>>> the name and continued. Would that have affected permissions etc? >>>> I've used Disk Utility and it repairs permissions but this silly problem >>>> still exists. Either that or something came into the system folder from >>>> the old MacBook Pro which this Mountain Lion couldn't quite digest! >>>> >>>> Reg >>>> >>>> On 25/06/2013, at 5:58 pm, Daniel Kerr <dan...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No point. Solid State Drives (SSD's) don't work the same as "normal >>>>> drives" so you won't gain any benefit from it, and in some cases can make >>>>> it worse. >>>>> >>>>> So I wouldn't recommend Diskwarrior for that type of machine, or ones >>>>> with SSD's at all. >>>>> >>>>> If you're having "strange issues" then I'd try backing everything up then >>>>> do a full erase. Once done reinstall the OS and the migrate your files >>>>> back. >>>>> If you've tried re-installing just the last combo update over the top of >>>>> it and issues persist then a clean fresh install with migration back >>>>> should fix it. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> Daniel >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5 >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>> MacWizardry >>>>> >>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>> Email: <danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau> >>>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **For everything Apple** >>>>> >>>>> On 25/06/2013, at 5:33 PM, Reg Whitely <rwhit...@internode.on.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi WAMUGgers >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been following this for a while and thank Ronni for her tenacity in >>>>>> helping us all. I'm tempted to try Disk Warrior on my new MacBook Pro >>>>>> Early 2013 15" Retina which displays curious behaviour at times (ie ML >>>>>> Software updates always end up with Install failed messages even though >>>>>> they have installed apparently successfully - currently 10.8.4). >>>>>> >>>>>> However looking at the Disk Warrior website and tech info it is apparent >>>>>> that: >>>>>> >>>>>> "The current DiskWarrior DVD cannot start up the new MacBook Pros >>>>>> introduced June 11, 2012. An updated disc that will also start up these >>>>>> recent Mac models will be released as soon as Apple, Inc. releases new >>>>>> startup files to Alsoft, Inc. and other developers." >>>>>> >>>>>> Any advice here before I fork out my $99US? I guess I could install this >>>>>> on our iMac and do the repairs in Target Disk mode, but I'd rather have >>>>>> the most appropriate software in the first instance. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've sent a tech query to Alsoft and await their response also. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards and thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Reg >>>>>> >>>>>> On 25/06/2013, at 7:36 am, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This reply that I sent to WAMUG Mailing list on Friday 21 June 2013 is >>>>>>> not showing in the Mailing List Archives. >>>>>>> So I'm not sure if it came through to the List. I've forwarded the >>>>>>> reply again just in case. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: MacBook issues >>>>>>>> Date: 21 June 2013 7:59:59 AM AWST >>>>>>>> To: wamug@wamug.org.au >>>>>>>> Reply-To: wamug@wamug.org.au >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Stuart, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You need to fix the corruption first if possible. Use DiskWarrior to >>>>>>>> Rebuild and Replace the Directory if it can. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How to use DiskWarrior: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The DiskWarrior DVD is bootable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Insert the DiskWarrior DVD & Start your Mac, Hold down the “C” >>>>>>>> key to start from the DiskWarrior CD. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. When the computer has completed starting up from the DiskWarrior >>>>>>>> CD, the DiskWarrior application will open automatically. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You will then be presented with the DiskWarrior main window from which >>>>>>>> you can rebuild disk directories. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3. Select Macintosh HD from the drop-down menu >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4. The lower portion of the main window will indicate whether the >>>>>>>> directory is ready to be rebuilt. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If for some reason DiskWarrior cannot rebuild the disk’s directory, it >>>>>>>> will indicate the reasons the directory cannot be rebuilt. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 5. Click the Rebuild button. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> DiskWarrior will begin building the replacement directory on the disk >>>>>>>> to be rebuilt. It will first analyse the disk. This analysis can take >>>>>>>> anywhere from several seconds to several minutes or longer, depending >>>>>>>> on the number of files on the disk. When DiskWarrior is finished, it >>>>>>>> will display a dialog informing you of the results of the rebuild. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 6. Click “Replace” to use the replacement directory >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you click “Replace,” DiskWarrior will install the replacement >>>>>>>> directory on your disk. This will result in your disk being “replaced” >>>>>>>> by the Preview disk described above. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 7. DiskWarrior will install the rebuilt directory and keep you >>>>>>>> updated with its progress. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> DiskWarrior uses a fail-safe method of replacing the directory >>>>>>>> whenever possible, which will be most cases. To use the fail-safe >>>>>>>> method, there merely needs to be enough free space on the disk to >>>>>>>> write the new directory. There is redundancy designed into the >>>>>>>> fail-safe method, assuring there is never any risk of ending up with >>>>>>>> an unusable disk if the process is interrupted. You can go back to >>>>>>>> step 4 for any disk for which the process was interrupted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 8. Quit DiskWarrior by selecting "Quit DiskWarrior" from the >>>>>>>> DiskWarrior menu. >>>>>>>> Your computer will now restart. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 20/06/2013, at 8:43 PM, Stuart Breden <bred...@highway1.biz> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Ronni. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'll try Disk Worrier again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My daughter does not have a back up of her hard drive. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think I know how to reinstall the operating system with loosing her >>>>>>>>> data. Is it all in your tutorial? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Looked on your web site but can't find anything about reinstalling OS >>>>>>>>> 10.4. What link do I use? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stuart Breden >>>>>>>>> PO Box 132 >>>>>>>>> Kalamunda WA 6926 >>>>>>>>> Ph: (08) 9257 1577 >>>>>>>>> Mbl: 0417 053 266 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 20/06/2013, at 12:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Stuart, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As I mentioned previously this indicates there is corruption/damage, >>>>>>>>>> whether the system software or hardware (hard drive) we are not sure. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I take it this is a MacBook2,1 Intel Core 2 Duo... not MacBook1,1 >>>>>>>>>> Intel Core Duo. >>>>>>>>>> Because you mentioned the MacBook came with OS X 10.4.8 installed >>>>>>>>>> and then you said you updated it to OS X 10.4.8... Don't you mean >>>>>>>>>> you were updating it to OS X 10.4.11? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tim's advise of reinstalling the OS system may need to be used. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But first: You mentioned you did boot from the DiskWarrior DVD (it >>>>>>>>>> takes about 10 minutes to boot from the disc) and were able to >>>>>>>>>> Repair and Replace the Mac's Directory Database? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> After DW finished the repair and replaced the contents of the drive >>>>>>>>>> with the fixed one, what happened? >>>>>>>>>> Did you remove the DW disc from the drive and reboot as normal? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 19/06/2013, at 10:53 PM, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Stuart, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Just an idea - have you tried reloading your original system >>>>>>>>>>> software by starting up with the disk the computer came with? And >>>>>>>>>>> once the computer is running fine on the original OS, then >>>>>>>>>>> upgrading it to the latest. I'm wondering if somehow it's lost it's >>>>>>>>>>> operating system. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Assuming that there were no problems before the upgrade was done, >>>>>>>>>>> and Diskwarrior and the AHT did their stuff without throwing up >>>>>>>>>>> alarming errors on the state of the disk, I'm wondering if starting >>>>>>>>>>> again from scratch would be a reasonable thing to try - through all >>>>>>>>>>> the upgrades the system software may have got corrupted somehow. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully you can do all this whilst maintaining the user files. >>>>>>>>>>> Does she have a recent backup in case you need to erase the disk >>>>>>>>>>> and start really afresh? >>>>>>>>>>> It's starting to point to desperate measures me thinks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 19/06/2013, at 8:34 PM, Stuart Breden <bred...@highway1.biz> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You are correct Ronni. Did not do the Safe Boot quite correctly. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now followed your instruction to the letter and still the MacBook >>>>>>>>>>>> will not boot. As previously opens to blank blue screen. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. Any further advice? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Breden >>>>>>>>>>>> PO Box 132 >>>>>>>>>>>> Kalamunda WA 6926 >>>>>>>>>>>> Ph: (08) 9257 1577 >>>>>>>>>>>> Mbl: 0417 053 266 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/06/2013, at 9:13 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Stuart, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A Gray, blue or white screen and/or loading bar - means OS X >>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't loading - usually indicating a corrupt/drive issue. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure you correctly did a Safe Mode startup. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Safe boot mode? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When holding down Shift key at startup comes to startup screen >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the wheel continuing to spin. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is when you release the Shift key and let the system load. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Step 4 below. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It takes longer to startup in Safe Mode than a normal startup. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To start up into Safe Mode (to Safe Boot): >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Be sure your Mac is shut down. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Press the power button. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Immediately after you hear the startup tone, hold the Shift >>>>>>>>>>>>> key. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Shift key should be held as soon as possible after the >>>>>>>>>>>>> startup tone, but not before the tone. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Release the Shift key when you see the gray Apple icon and the >>>>>>>>>>>>> progress indicator (looks like a spinning gear). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> During startup in Mac OS X v10.4 through Mac OS X v10.6.8, you >>>>>>>>>>>>> will see "Safe Boot" on the login window. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To leave Safe Mode, restart the computer normally, without >>>>>>>>>>>>> holding any keys during startup. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/06/2013, at 8:21 PM, Stuart Breden <bred...@highway1.biz> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> See below. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Breden >>>>>>>>>>>>>> PO Box 132 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kalamunda WA 6926 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph: (08) 9257 1577 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mbl: 0417 053 266 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/06/2013, at 8:38 PM, Tim Law wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What have you already tried Stuart? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Safe boot mode? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> When holding down Shift key at startup comes to startup screen >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the wheel continuing to spin. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you let it restart all by itself after the software update, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or did it get turned off before the updates had been completed? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let it restart by itself and it goes through the startup screen >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then stays on blue screen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried restarting from original disks to make sure it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not a hardware issue. Insert original disk and hold C to force >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it to boot from that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Repaired Permissions and Repair Dick from Dick Utility on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Disk 1 of the original disks. did the extended hardware >>>>>>>>>>>>>> test and no problems. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have disk Warrior, and have you run it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How did you update? Via the normal online Software Update? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> v10.4.8 via the normal online Software Update. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What operating system did she have, or have now? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the original disks it was v10.4.8. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you follow the oft repeated expectations of Ronni before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and after any upgrades? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e. backup, permissions fix etc etc. She's got a whole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tutorial on her website if I recall. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes and no. My daughter wanted her MacBook ASAP and did not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow exactly as I was sick. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or perhaps you are busy managing the relationship with your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daughter - chocolate etc...... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/06/2013, at 7:35 PM, Stuart Breden <bred...@highway1.biz> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My daughter has a MacBook Intel Core 2 Duo/1.83 Ghz (November >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20060. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I upgraded it over the weekend following the Software Update. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She has Microsoft Office 2004. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After I had completed the updates of the system software and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft all I got was a blank blue screen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What now? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Breden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PO Box 132 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kalamunda WA 6926 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph: (08) 9257 1577 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mbl: 0417 053 266 >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > Reg Whitely > > Home: 08 9921 7272 > Mob: 04 8899 7313 > Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net > > > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
