Hi Daniel, Hi Matt,
I guess it all boils down to just what you are trying to achieve and how you
want to setup the new iMac and use it with the 2 older iMacs.
As Daniel says, and as I previously mentioned, you can certainly setup file
sharing to work between different computers, different user accounts etc. I
frequently use file sharing between my account on one computer and Georgie's
account on another computer.
But I have also encountered lots of problems when using different computers
where I (inadvertently) ended up with MY account having the same login details
but different User IDs on different computers - which is Matt's current
situation.
It is a while since I was doing all this - so I don't remember exact
details/problems - but I think the basic problem boils down to that when the
Mac looks at ownership and permissions for a file/folder it considers each User
ID as a separate user - so if I set up the same two user accounts on two
different computers, say Admin & User, but do it in a different order on each
then I end up with the situation where User ID 501 is Admin on one computer and
User on the other computer - and vice-versa.
When things go wrong you can end up with Admin seeing & owning his own stuff on
one computer but User's stuff on material that has come from the other computer
- and vice-versa - and not being able to see/access stuff that he thinks
belongs to him but now doesn't (I haven't really explained that too well, but
it is a real pain when it happens)
Each computer setup works fine on its own and, when sharing, you login using
the correct details for the relevant account - so you can get access to the
account with the same user name/password but different User ID. Then if you
want to copy a document to your computer it will be given the correct
permissions with you as owner.
I don't really remember but I think the problems I had may have been either
when I had a computer die and I was moving stuff from a clone to the new
computer or when I had one computer in target mode and tried to move stuff. Not
sure if it is relevant but I also use Dropbox & OneDrive to keep a lot of user
files/folders the same across different macs.
Anyway, all I know is once bitten.... So now any new computer gets:
1 a basic admin account User ID 501
2 my main user account User ID 502
3 if it is a computer that Georgie will use, she gets User ID 503!
This consistent system seems to work for me.
I am not sure exactly what Matt's setup is with regard to the different user
accounts on each iMac, how they were setup and how he uses them - but the
problems he described rang enough bells for me to deduce that his main user
account on his new iMac had a different User ID to his same account on the
older two iMacs....
YMMV
Cheers
Neil
On 18/05/20, 16:59, "Daniel Kerr"
<wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au on behalf of
wa...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote:
Hi Matt
I haven’t followed all of this thread so someone may have mentioned it.
But a few things to check and adjust, as some of the later systems changed
the type of File Sharing protocols in the background.
On the newer iMac, go to System Preferences - Sharing. Click on File Sharing
Untick File Sharing for the time being, so it’s not on.
On the right hand side, click on “Options” Tick on Both "Share files and
folders using SMB" and “AFP" (and you can tick your account under Windows File
Sharing if you really want to as well).
Then click Done.
Then you should find it automatically ticks File Sharing on for you.
Repeat the process on the older iMac as well.
Then close System Preferences and restart. (Just to refresh the settings).
Then log in using either the Side bar or Go menu - Connect to Server. -
Browse.
Log in to the other Mac, ensuring you’re using both the same name (either
Full name or shortname) and the computer password of the account you’re logging
in to.
(You can tick the box to save this if you want to, so you don’t have to
type it all the time).
You should then find you can copy files.
The details used are important. User details as log as correct (and
different UserID) should make sharing fine.
I share files between various computers at home, and if I share to my son’s
computer (which has a different UserID, different username and different
password). And I can log in fine with no issues moving files around all the
computers. (Most are the standand ID501 as they were all set as new, but I have
one machine that has 3 different UserID’s and I can log in to all of them and
move a file no problems.
Hope that helps.
Kind regards
Daniel
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> On 18 May 2020, at 8:52 am, Matt Falvey <mmfal...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Alan, I tried the screen sharing method and I was able to get it to
work, but found it very awkward. In that to save a file to the second mac I had
to make sure that the file was visible in its location in finder and on the
screen on the first Mac, so that could be reflected on the screen of the
second. So I could then copy it from that initial finder to the storage
location on the second screen.
>
> What I am hoping to achieve is to be able to just be able to go Save As
and an image of the files on the HD of the second mac opens up and I can select
which folder to store the file in without having to actually go to that Mac.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Matt.
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 12:17:50 +0800
> From: Alan Smith <sma...@iinet.net.au>
> To: WAMUG Mailing List <wamug@wamug.org.au>
> Subject: Re: iMac not connecting to other iMac's
> Message-ID: <0159a081-97ca-42ba-9c39-ba4a48f97...@iinet.net.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Matt
>
> Have you read the official Apple help file to ?Share the screen of
another Mac??
>
> https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/mac-help/mh14066/mac
>
> I also have three Macs of various vintages. Initially I a few problems
with stability with the 3 Macs all sharing at the same time. Works perfectly
with any combination of two.
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
>
>
>> On 15 May 2020, at 11:54 am, Matt Falvey <mmfal...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I have three iMacs (one is a recent second hand one - 2013 HD) and I
am trying to transfer documents from one to the other. All show up as ?Shared?
on the side bar of the finder window.
>>
>> With the two older iMacs when I click on the 2013 HD icon in Shared the
window in the next column opens and states the HD name and ?Connection Failed?
and I have the option Connect As and Share Screen. When I try Connect As and
try to connect as the Registered User using the Name and Password, it reverts
to the previous screen, with the Connection Failed.
>>
>> (The two older iMacs connect to each other.)
>>
>> If I go to the 2013 HD finder window and click on either of the other
two HD?s they connect straight away and I am able to transfer files to the
respective computer.
>>
>> I have also have a problem with the new 2013 HD, which was posted last
week, with hindsight this may be associated to this problem and that is that
when I try to save files to one of the other iMacs I get a message ?The
document ?xxxxx.pdf? could not be exported as ? xxxxxxx.pdf? as You don?t have
Permission. To view or change permissions select the item in the Finder and
choose File > Get Info. Which needless to say doesn?t work.
>>
>> So it seems as if for whatever reason the other two are communicating
inwards with the 2013 HD but something is stopping it from being able to
connect outwards.
>>
>> I would be grateful if anyone has any ideas or solutions to share.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Matt.
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